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Saturday, June 29, 2019

APOSTASY ALERT: RICK WARREN & MARK BATTERSON ON HEARING GOD'S VOICE~OR SO IT SEEMS!

APOSTASY ALERT: RICK WARREN & MARK BATTERSON ON HEARING GOD'S VOICE~OR SO IT SEEMS! 
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SEE OUR PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT THE SLIDE INTO APOSTASY & HERESY BY
RICK WARREN, MARK BATTERSON, & NANCY DEMOSS-WOHLGEMUTH

Thursday, April 12, 2018

RICK WARREN RECOMMENDS WORDLESS CONTEMPLATION

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RICK WARREN RECOMMENDS 
WORDLESS CONTEMPLATION 
BY DAVID CLOUD
SEE: https://www.wayoflife.org/reports/rick_warren_recommends_wordless_contemplation.phprepublished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
April 12, 2018
David Cloud, Way of Life Literature, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061
866-295-4143, 
fbns@wayoflife.org
Saddleback Church recommends a wide range of books on contemplative mysticism at its web site.Spiritual Disciplines Handbook by Adele Calhoun, for example, has been listed under the “Spiritual Growth” section for at least the past two years. Rick Warren, senior pastor at Saddleback, pretends that contemplative prayer is merely getting alone in a quiet place to meditate on God’s Word, but it goes far beyond that. Warren says that contemplative prayer is nothing like yoga, but as a former member of a Hindu meditation society, I can testify that practices such as centering prayer are definitely yoga-like.
Adele Calhoun recommends Roman Catholic monastic practices which were, in turn, borrowed from paganism, as we have documented in our book Contemplative Mysticism. Calhoun lists Roman Catholics as “spiritual tutors,” including M. Basil Pennington, Henri Nouwen, Peter Kreeft, William Meninger, Francis de Sales, Richard Rohr, William Johnson, Teresa of Avila, Thomas Keating, John of the Cross, Brother Lawrence, Tilden Edwards, Ignatius Loyola, St. Benedict, Thomas Merton, John Henry Newman, Julian of Norwich. Not only are these deeply misguided individuals laden down with Catholic heresies, but many were led by their mystical practices to universalism, panentheism, and even rank idolatry. (For example, Thomas Merton worshipped Buddhist idols.) Calhoun recommends following the Roman Catholic Church liturgical calendar, seeking spiritual direction from Catholic orders, and visiting Catholic retreat centers. She describes a pilgrimage she took with 30 women in her “covenant group” to visit the sites of Catholic mystics and to study their practices. She recommends a whole slew of unscriptural contemplative practices, including the Jesus prayer (vain repetition), palms up palms down (psychological visualization), lectio divina, imagination prayer, centering prayer, breath prayer, practicing the presence, silence, and spiritual direction. She recommends the use of single words as a mantra to drive away conscious thoughts. “Choose a simple word ... Let this word guard your attention. ... When your thoughts wander let them drop to the bottom of your mind. Don’t go after them. ... Imagine your distracting thoughts are part of the debris floating in the current of a river. Don’t try to capture these thoughts; release them and let the river of God’s life carry them away.” 

In describing her mysticism, Calhoun quotes Richard Rohr, “Prayer is not primarily saying words or thinking thoughts. It is, rather, a stance. It’s a way of living in the Presence.” This is not biblical contemplation; it is blind mysticism. Even when it comes to devotional reading of the Bible, Calhoun discourages “mentally critiquing or exegeting the text.” Rather, the Bible is to be used as a launching pad for mysticism as the practitioner refuses to “analyze” it but merely “listens and waits.” 

It is impossible to exaggerate the danger inherent in contemplative mysticism, and it is impossible to warn too loudly and plainly of the spiritual blindness of the “evangelical” leaders who are promoting it.

For more on this see 
Evangelicals and Contemplative Prayer, available in print and a free eBook edition from www.wayoflife.org.
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SEE ALSO:
EXCERPTS: "But what does this have to do with Saddleback Church and Rick Warren? What an excellent question “grasshopper.” So let me do some ‘splainin’. In Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM) in Baptist State Convention of North Carolina (SBC) you’ll see that the advance of Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism(CSM), which flowered within the antibiblical monastic traditions of apostate Roman Catholicism, into the “Protestant” Southern Baptist Convention under the guise of Spiritual Formation really isn’t any secret.
Nor is the fact that Purpose Driven Pope Rick Warren is a promoter of The Cult of Guru Richard Foster. In Rick Warren Guilty for Endorsing Richard Foster and His Reimagined Gnostic Mysticism I showed you that in Warren’s modern Church Growth Movement classic The Purpose Driven Church he says that from “time to time God has raised up a parachurch movement to reemphasize a neglected purpose of the church.”"
"And by the way, you can also purchase Celebration of Discipline at Saddleback Church along with Spirit of the Disciplines by Foster’s partner Dallas WillardLife of the Beloved by Roman Catholic priest Henri Nouwen(1932-1996) and Spiritual Disciplines Handbook by Adele Ahlberg Calhoun, “pastor of spiritual formation at Christ Church in Oakbrook, IL,” all found in the bookstore of Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church in their Spiritual Disciplines section right next to the section of Spiritual Formation."
AND HERE AS WELL:

Sunday, December 3, 2017

NEW WILLOW CREEK PASTOR JOINS THE POPE, PITS GRACE AGAINST REPENTANCE

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NEW WILLOW CREEK PASTOR JOINS THE POPE, PITS GRACE AGAINST REPENTANCE
republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
 
Willow Creek was Saddleback Church before Saddleback. For more than 30 years, Willow Creek Community Church in the Chicago area has been the flagship of the Church Growth Movement. By watering down doctrine and adopting (in some ways, inventing) the “seeker-sensitive” approach to ministry, Willow Creek herded goats into their doors, fed them sugar blocks, and slapped the word “church” on it. In 2015, the church announced that after a year of research into its membership, it recognized that their seeker-friendly approach was a near-total failure at creating serious disciples and pledged to change their ways and focus more on teaching the Bible (novel approach, we know). Since then, Willow Creek has changed leadership and seems to be struggling to change from their doctrineless, watered-down, evanjellyfish ways. Its new upcoming lead pastor, Steve Carter, recently joined the Bishop of Rome for warm fellowship and ostensible partnership.

According to this Protestant (lol) evangelical pastor, the Bishop of Rome (aka the Holy Father, Vicar of Christ and Head of the Church – three names reserved for God the Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ) is the type of listener, pastor and encourager that he wants to be.
Gross.
Maybe Willow Creek’s new pastor hasn’t heard of the Protestant Reformation. Maybe he didn’t know that the Pope is the type and shadow of the antichrist who has raised himself up to be God. Maybe he hasn’t heard about things like the Council of Trent or Vatican I or Vatican II. Maybe he’s unaware of the Pope’s doctrines of papal infallibility, the immaculate conception and bodily assumption of Mary, purgatory, or denying Sola Fide. Maybe Steve Carter doesn’t know what he’s supposed to be doing or teaching. Maybe he’s just vaguely unfamiliar with Christian doctrine in general. It’s either that, or Carter himself is a wolf in sheep’s clothing who’s as wicked as the Pope himself.
Some social media followers questioned Carter about becoming an odd bed fellow with the Scarlet Harlot. His response in unsurprising, yet nauseating.

Firstly, writing as a Protestant here, heck yes the photo triggers us. Are you new to Protestantism, Steve. Why wouldn’t it trigger us, especially when it is laced with a compliment?
Secondly, what’s the thought here, Steve? Do you think you’re going to spend some time making selfies with the Antichrist and then become his text-buddy? Are you two going to exchange pen-pal letters now and you hope to sneak a rebuke for idolatry in there somewhere? Will there be tin cans with string tied betwixt them strung up somewhere between Chicago and Vatican City so that you and the Pope can have some long, heart-felt late-night talks? Is the presumption that the Pope just hasn’t heard of Christianity yet, and by his relationship with Steve he’ll come to Jesus? I mean, he’s the Pope. He’s heard of the Gospel. It’s anathematized in his church councils and he stands against all that is good and pure.
If you only had a few seconds with the Pope, what would you say? Here’s how Ian Paisley handled that opportunity.
IAN PAISLEY HECKLES THE POPE 1988:

Thirdly and most importantly, Steve Carter equates “grace” with “not telling someone they’re in sin.” This is a perverse understanding of grace for a pastor. As John Newton wrote, “Twas grace that taught my heart to fear…” To call someone to repentance is an act of God’s grace toward that individual. To meet with the Pope and not frantically tell him that he is Satan’s gimp is not gracious, it is treason against God and hatred toward whatever fleshly body currently sits in the Antichrist’s seat. Grace calls to repentance; not calling to repentance is hate.
One can expect the tenure of Steve Carter at Willow Creek to be graceless, because its pastor has tragically confused niceness with grace.
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SEE OUR PREVIOUS POST:
 WILLOW CREEK CHOOSES NON-MARRIED CO-ED PASTORS TO SUCCEED BILL HYBELS~FIRST MEGACHURCH TO HAVE A FEMALE LEAD PASTRIX 

Friday, September 29, 2017

ECUMENIST RICK WARREN HOPES HIS PARTNERSHIP WITH ROMAN CATHOLIC LEADER WILL BECOME "MODEL" FOR THE WORLD

 
RICK WARREN HOPES HIS PARTNERSHIP WITH ROMAN CATHOLIC LEADER WILL BECOME 
"MODEL" FOR THE WORLD
BY HEATHER CLARK
 
republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
 
LAKE FOREST, Calif. — Megachurch leader Rick Warren, known for his best-selling book “The Purpose-Driven Life,” said in a recent interview that he hopes his partnership with a local Roman Catholic leader to collaboratively combat social ills becomes a “model” for others around the world. His remarks have drawn disagreement from those who believe that ecumenism with those who preach another gospel is unbiblical.
The Roman Catholic site Crux published the interview, which featured both Warren and friend Kevin Vann of the Diocese of Orange, on Sept. 14. They were asked by interviewer and diocese Chancellor Pia de Solenni to share about how their friendship formed and developed.
Vann recalled that Warren attended his installation as the bishop of Orange and also called to congratulate him. The two continued to communicate and soon also began praying together.
“One way we stay in touch is by texting personal prayer requests to each other,” Warren explained. “When my youngest son died in April 2013, I knew Kevin was praying for me, and when his father died in November 2014, I was praying for him. Sharing pain and grief brought us closer.”

Not only did Warren and Vann pray together, but “brainstorming meetings between [their] two staffs” about the issue of mental illness—in light of Matthew Warren’s suicide—led to the formation of a joint conference and other efforts to address mental health.
“Out of these discussions about working together, the Diocese of Orange and Saddleback church decided to partner in sponsoring two gatherings, or symposia, on what should be the Church’s response to mental illness,” Vann explained.
“[O]ut of Matthew’s death came a partnership in creating a conference to help others, and also a number of other mental health initiatives,” Warren added. “It also brought Catholics and Evangelicals together as I, and our church, received many letters of comfort from Catholic priests and parishioners.”

Vann noted that the two have worked together on other projects as well, including jointly expressing their opposition to physician-assisted suicide. Warren noted that he also organized a retreat in which priests and pastors cooperatively strategized how churches can be the face of love in the midst of the blot of racism.
“So really, our friendship began with heart-to-heart praying together, but then it grew into working hand-in-hand together on projects where Christians can offer a compassionate response to those in need, and also stand together with clear and united voice in opposing evil,” he further outlined.
Vann and Warren agreed that the world is a better place when Evangelicals and Catholics work together to address societal issues.
“We’ve seen first-hand that much good can be accomplished for the Kingdom of God by Catholics and Evangelicals being present to one another, praying for each other, and ministering to our communities together,” Vann said.
“If unbelievers like what they see, they will listen to what we say,” Warren also remarked. “Consider this: about 25 percent of Americans are Catholic Christians, and another 25 percent are Evangelical Christians. That’s about half of America! If just these two groups were committed to modeling the love of Christ together, imagine all the good that could happen!”
“Our prayer is that Orange County might be a model for others around the world,” he said.
Warren shared the article on Twitter, writing, “If you love Jesus, we may serve on different teams, but we’re in the same league of receiving His grace and forgiveness.”
His post generated mixed response, with some commenting in favor of the partnership and others expressing that ecumenism with those who do not adhere to biblical orthodoxy is verboten.
“Yes pastor! I am happy because Jesus is uniting us,” one commenter wrote.
“How do you explain the Counsel of Trent placing an anathema on those who believe that justification is by faith alone?” another asked.
John Fallahee of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries and adjunct faculty at Knox Theological Seminary told Christian News Network that the gospel is the only means by which the evils of the world can be addressed, as it is the power of God to save and transform. However, since Catholics preach a different gospel/adhere to erring doctrines as to how men may be saved, how “[c]an two walk together except they be agreed?” (Amos 3:3)
“Jesus Christ’s perfect, once for all sacrifice for sin on the cross and resurrection from the dead three days later (John 19:16–20:29), proves there is no other message or means to address sin and evil in this world,” he explained. “This is why Paul proclaims, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek” (Romans 1:16).”
Fallahee
“[But] the false and fatal gospel of the Roman Catholic Church is a different gospel than Jesus Christ and the apostles,” Fallahee continued. “Furthermore, the Roman Catholic Church condemns anyone who believes you are saved by faith apart from works (Trent, Session 6, On Justification, Canon 9, 12, 14, 15). They condemn anyone who denies the necessity of the sacraments (Trent, Session 7, Concerning the Sacraments, Canon 4). And they condemn anyone who denies the eucharistic sacrifice remits sins (Trent, Session 13, Concerning the Eucharist, Canon 5).”
He noted that Jude, in observing false teachings creeping into the Church, instructed the Christians of his day to “contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints” (Jude 1:3-4). Likewise, Fallahee explained, those in our day who mistakenly think that Christianity can be compromised for the sake of unity do not truly understand the necessity of the purity of the gospel that saves souls.
“If anyone puts forward a lesser ‘light,’ like the ‘picture of unity,’ they prove they do not understand the primacy and power of the gospel of Christ to change a sinner, like Saul into the Apostle Paul, and the ‘such were some of you’ mentioned in 1 Corinthians 6:9–11,” he outlined.
“Since there is only one authorized gospel from Jesus Christ (Matthew 28:16–20) and all other gospels preached are forbidden and cursed (Galatians 1:6-9), there can be no genuine unity when individuals do not believe in the same gospel and the same Christ,” Fallahee stated.

 

Tuesday, May 30, 2017

RICK WARREN'S SADDLEBACK CHURCH YOUTH WORKER ARRESTED FOR MOLESTING BOYS

 
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republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
 
A Lighthouse Trails reader has alerted us to a news story in the Los Angeles Times  (see below) about the arrest of a 32-year-old Saddleback Church male youth worker who has been accused of molesting two 14-year-old boys at Saddleback. Some may wonder why we are posting a news story about child sexual abuse. Since the early years of Lighthouse Trails, we have included in our reporting issues on child sexual abuse, in particular, within the church.

Photo: Seducers Among Our Children; Crough
Regarding the fact that this is Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church where the alleged molestation occurred, we need to make some comments. First, we know that child sexual abuse happens in many churches (partly because Christians are generally very trusting people and predators know this is a good place to find unguarded children), and we certainly cannot directly blame Rick Warren or his Purpose Driven movement for what happened. However, there is some indirect blame here, not just with Saddleback but with all seeker-friendly, church-growth churches. In a statement sent out by two of Rick Warren’s pastors on May 26, it said that Saddleback Church “require[s] fingerprinting, professional background checks, and personal interviews,” for all who volunteer to work with “kids and students.” But this is not nearly adequate as many molesters have never been caught or arrested, and predators are not going to admit that is what they are in personal interviews.  Herein lies the problem: The seeker-friendly churches have been guilty of allowing unsaved and/or newly saved or immature Christians to become Sunday school teachers, youth workers, missionaries, Bible study leaders, etc., and this is wrong (and unbiblical). They do this, in part, because they want to make everyone at the church feel welcomed, useful, and comfortable. And in some cases, seeker-friendly churches have a deficit in saved and/or mature believers who can lead and teach so they use what they have (many unsaved or immature Christians).  But they have done this at the expense of those in the congregation who are trusting them to guide and teach them and also to protect their children while in church. Unbelievers especially should never be put in any position of leadership, mentoring, or teaching (or working in any capacity with children or teens). Period. So at least in this respect, Saddleback has created a potentially dangerous environment for children by the very nature of their seeker-friendly, church-growth model in how unbelievers or immature believers are allowed to lead, teach, and help.

Photo: Color of Pain; Reid
Now we want to make one thing clear, sexual abuse of children doesn’t just happen in seeker-friendly churches. For example, it also happens in legalistic churches where an abuse of authority is occurring and people (and kids) are afraid to speak up. It also happens in churches that are neither seeker-friendly nor legalistic in cases where there is just downright naivety and ignorance by the adults. There was a case several years ago in a church in Portland, Oregon where a young man had joined the Sunday School teaching team. He was working in a classroom as an aid with a teacher of children under 7. Often,  he was seen taking a child to go to the bathroom, but no one thought twice about it. A few years into this, it was discovered that he had molested dozens of church children during the bathroom visits. Many of these molested kids grew up with many painful issues.
If you belong to a church, no matter what kind it is, you better make sure your church has implemented a safety plan to protect kids. In this day and age where sexual deviance is at an all-time high in our society, it takes more vigilance than ever to make sure children do not become victims of sexual abuse.

Photo: Color of Pain; Reid
It is heartbreaking to think about who-knows-how-many boys at Saddleback Church have been molested by this 32-year-old male predator. Their lives will never be the same. And no seeker-friendly, purpose-driven, church-growth strategy is going to help them in the long run. They are going to need a true relationship with Jesus Christ and a life sustained by and developed in the Word of God. They are going to need parents and teachers who also have these qualities. Substitutes like spiritual formation, contemplative prayer, celebrate recovery etc. will never take the place for the real thing.
For the two 14-year-old boys at Saddleback who were brave enough to come forward, we say bravo. You did the right thing, and we pray that you will keep your eyes and your heart toward the Lord during this tough time and not allow Satan to use this to destroy your lives.
Finally, we urge parents to do everything you need to do to protect your children from becoming victims of sexual abuse. Two of our authors address this issue in their books, articles, and booklets—Investigative Sergeant Patrick Crough and Gregory Reid.  To read some of the articles and reports we have published on child sexual abuse and how to protect your kids such as Patrick Crough’s article “Protecting Your Child From Sexual Predators – With Prayer & the Word,” see the links below.
As for the LA Times news story below, let us pray for the boys who have been victimized and also that all victims of this pedophile/homosexual will come forth. The power of sin lies in its secrecy, especially in the case of child molestation. We always thank the Lord when such matters are no longer concealed. That’s when healing can begin for the victims if given the wisdom of the Lord.
Parents who suspect their children have been victims of Ruben Meulenberg are being urged to contact OC Crime Stoppers at (855) TIP-OCCS. (source: ABC News: http://abc7.com/news/oc-youth-mentor-accused-of-lewd-acts-with-2-teen-boys/2041417/. )

By Joseph Serna
Los Angeles Times

Ruben Meulenberg
A youth mentor at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest has been accused of acting inappropriately with two teenage boys while he volunteered there, the Orange County Sheriff’s Department said Friday.
Ruven (Ruben) Meulenberg, 32, was arrested Thursday and booked on suspicion of lewd and lascivious acts on a child and is being held on $100,000 bail, authorities said. Jail records show he is scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday in a Santa Ana courtroom.
Detectives were alerted to the situation after a 14-year-old boy told his parents that Meulenberg had molested him, Lt. Lane Lagaret said. The parents told the church’s youth pastor, who called the Sheriff’s Department, Lagaret said.
Another 14-year-old boy turned up during the detectives’ investigation, Lagaret said. Click here to continue reading. (See information below about Ruben (Ruven) Meulenberg.)

Ruben (Ruven) Meulenberg: Has worked for years with his identical twin brother Efraim Meulenberg in video game development. According to KidMin Academy where the brothers are listed as faculty:
Ruben and Efraim Meulenberg have trained 40,000 game developers, 20,000 musicians, thousands of children’s- and youth workers globally, and have been in ministry for 15 years. They’re known for their breakthrough work at Saddleback Church and founded KidsWantAnswers.com, through which they bring cutting edge media and curriculum to churches and families.
Watch this 2015 video (if you can bear it) of the Saddleback Junior High “Glow Party” that was produced by the Meulenberg brothers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS38vpsqTtc. Witnessing how Saddleback Church is “teaching” their junior high kids to go into a frenzied state as has happened here in this video is distressing. Is it any wonder that things are out of control at Saddleback Church?

“Glow Party” at Saddleback Junior High group, produced by Ruben and Efraim Meulenberg
And this news video story about possibly more victims:

Related Information:
Boy Scouts’ Rulings Put Boys at Risk (and “Letter to the Molester” and “What Being Molested Cost Me”)
5 Things You Can Do to Protect Your Kids From Sexual Predators
Bill Gothard Resigns from Institute in Basic Life Principles Under Allegations of Sexual Abuse (And How to Spot the Signs of a Sexual Predator)

Are Your Kids Going to Be in Youth Group This Sunday? Food for Thought on How to Protect Your Kids 

SEE: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=22794

 As Lighthouse Trails has been researching the situation at Saddleback Church over the alleged molestation charges, we came across this YouTube video by a 29-year-old woman. We are posting this for informational and research purposes with the hope it will help parents think about their teens’ youth groups. Something to think about. Parents, let’s protect our kids. If you, as a parent, do not know how to spot a sexual predator, it’s time you read Patrick Crough’s incredible book, Seducers Among Our Children. One of the key signs is if a particular person is giving your child more attention than he should be. 

SEE ALSO:

http://bereanresearch.org/why-is-a-saddleback-pastor-teaching-on-the-kingdom-circles/ 

 Saddleback Church Statement Appears to Downplay Role of Alleged Molester Ruben Meulenberg 

SEE: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/newsletters/2017/newsletter20170529.htm

republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:

On Friday evening (May 26), Saddleback Church released a statement about the arrest of Ruben Meulenberg, the man who allegedly has been molesting boys at Saddleback. The Saddleback statement called Meulenberg a “student ministry volunteer.” Here is the full statement:
We are shocked and grieved to share that this week a Saddleback member reported that a student ministry volunteer had acted inappropriately with two 14-year-old boys. Of course, our staff quickly reported this accusation to our Orange County Sherriff’s Department. The next day, the volunteer was arrested on suspicion of the offense. The investigation of the accusation is now in the hands of the proper authorities.
We ask you to do two things: first, please pray for the Saddleback families who are involved in this sad matter; second, please pray for the investigators as they determine the facts. As followers of Jesus, we always want the whole truth to come out because Jesus taught us that lies enslave us, but the truth sets us free.
As a part of Saddleback, you know that our church has been built on the service of thousands of volunteers who donate hundreds of thousands of hours of their time. Most of you know that for decades we’ve had extremely high requirements and strict procedures in place for anyone who volunteers in our student and children ministries.
To be considered for volunteering with kids or students, we require fingerprinting, professional background checks, and personal interviews. We also use services that report any illegal activity to us immediately. In this case, the accused volunteer had no record of arrest or criminal charges. Also, our church requires volunteers who work with students or children to complete an annual training regarding appropriate conduct. Our system of safeguards has safely served over 40,000 students and children for 38 years.
Please pray for everyone involved. We love you.
Kurt Johnston, Student Ministries Pastor & Elder
 Steve Johnson, Executive Pastor & Elder (source)
Lighthouse Trails has since learned that Ruben Meulenberg, at least according to two sources (one by a source very close to Rick Warren and Saddleback), is not merely a volunteer at Saddleback – he is also a staff member. The first source is from an article written by public relations journalist Larry Ross, who states:
The Meulenberg brothers are versed media artists, programmers, consultants and the creators of FPS Control. As experienced professionals in the media industry, their training materials have trained over 20,000 musicians and 40,000 game and app developers globally, including Disney Mobile. Some past clients include ING Bank, Thompson, Pearson Education, RedHat, Logica CMG and Orange. They reside in southern California and serve on staff at Saddleback Church in the technology, communication and marketing ministries. (http://alarryross.com/tornado-twins-develop-unprecedented-video-game-the-game-bible-series/, emphasis added)
Ross has close ties with Rick Warren and Saddleback and has written numerous promotional reports on the Purpose Driven pastor.
The second source is from a Point of View interview done in 2014 where Meulenberg is described as a staff member at Saddleback:

The Tornado Twins’ materials have trained over 20,000 musicians and 40,000 game and app developers globally, including Disney Mobile. Some past clients include ING Bank, Thompson, Pearson Education, RedHat, Logica CMG and Orange.
Born and raised in the Netherlands, the Tornado Twins immigrated to the United States to create meaningful media. They reside in southern California and serve on staff at Saddleback Church in the technology, communication and marketing ministries. (https://pointofview.net/show/wednesday-october-22-2014/, emphasis added)
Ruben and Efraim Muelenberg (photo from YouTube 2 second clip; used in accordance with the US Fair Use Act)
If indeed Ruben Meulenberg is a staff member and one with a significant role in youth ministry at the mega church, then the statement released by Saddleback on May 26th has downplayed or minimized Meulenberg’s role at the church.
In addition to Ruben Meulenberg’s apparent staff position, his father, Abraham Meulenberg, is a pastor at Saddleback in charge of interfaith outreach. He was involved with Rick Warren’s efforts to form alliances with the Muslim community (source). Ruben’s mother, Marieke Meulenberg, is also a staff member at Saddleback, and according to her LinkedIn page, she serves as Project Manager and Volunteer Coordinator for the Office of the Pastor (source).
In various capacities, Ruben Meulenberg appears to have been quite involved at Saddleback. As you can see from this video of a Junior High “Glow Light” event, the Meulenberg brothers have been involved with training and influencing  the youth at Saddleback  (you may find this video disturbing as you watch the Meulenberg brothers, who call themselves the Tornado Twins, lead a large number of Saddleback Junior High kids into a frenzied state). The identical twin men have also introduced video games to Saddleback youth, and in fact, Rick Warren has encouraged and promoted one of their games as you can read in this Christian Post article, “Rick Warren Praises Twins’ Efforts to Create a Bible Video Game That Isn’t ‘Cheesy.”  And according to an Amazon web page, Warren also co-authored a book with Ruben Meulenberg along with some other authors titled Transformed: How God Changes Us. It seems very clear that Ruben Meulenberg has had more than a “volunteer” role at Saddleback, thus making the Saddleback statement misleading.
We hope Rick Warren and his staff will not try to minimize this tragic situation or their role in it in their failure to protect Saddleback kids. And we hope they will be honest with the parents as to what has really taken place. The facts seem to show that Reuben Meulenberg has been an integral part of Saddleback and has, unfortunately, had free unguarded access to the kids who trusted him.
Related Information:
5 Things You Can Do to Protect Your Kids From Sexual Predators
From an Investigative Sergeant—Helping Sexually Abused Children: A Calling, A Ministry, and a Mission
8 Things You Should Know About Boys Who Are Sexually Abused 
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The Tornado Twins Are Creating the Bible Video Game 
republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
 
With a goal of turning the stories of the Bible into a video game for all ages to enjoy, Ruben and Efraim Meulenberg, internet phenomenon and identical twins known as the “Tornado Twins,” have launched a Kickstarter, http://www.TheGameBible.com, to raise funds to develop several episodes about David, including the story of David and Goliath.
“The Game Bible Series” will be an epic 52-episode video game series to be released on multiple platforms and set to cover the entire Bible from Adam to Jesus, allowing the gamer to experience the entire biblical narrative in a side-scroller format — a game-genre where character, story and world-exploration come together.
The Meulenberg brothers have set a goal of $35,000 on Kickstarter, a crowd-funding social media site, to fund the first three episodes of the story of David. The first 10 episodes entitled “David, Rise of a King” will be fully funded at $380,000. Those interested in helping to fund “The Game Bible Series” have several options for donating, $5 and up. Each level of giving will allow a different level of access to “The Game Bible Series” before it is available to the general public.
“The stories of the Bible have everything needed to make an epic game – adventure, deceitful and courageous characters, miracles, giants, armies, war and the list goes on,” said Efraim Meulenberg, lead developer. “If you are very familiar with the stories of the Bible, this game will make you feel like you are experiencing the stories for the first time. But, even if you’re not familiar, this game will be an action-packed adventure that will leave you wanting more.”
“The Game Bible Series” will be a family-friendly game, specifically geared toward families with children ages 6-18. In the fashion of the Mario Brothers and Rayman games, “The Game Bible Series” will be void of gore or over-the-top violence, and fun and enjoyable for all ages. The Meulenbergs worked with a number of experienced game developers to create the high-quality graphics and infrastructure of the game and theological scholars to ensure accuracy and adherence to the Bible.
“Quality is of upmost importance to us,” said Ruben Meulenberg, lead writer. “To ensure a high level of gameplay, several experts who have been involved in the making of ‘Assassins’ Creed’ PSP, ‘Stargate’ PSP and the Lego games have weighed in on this project.”
“The twins bring infectious energy and passion to everything they do and execute with the utmost competence and professionalism,” said Chris King, CEO at SpeedTree, Creators of effects used in Batman Arkham City, Destiny, Battlefield 4, and more.
The Meulenberg brothers are versed media artists, programmers, consultants and the creators of FPS Control. As experienced professionals in the media industry, their training materials have trained over 20,000 musicians and 40,000 game and app developers globally, including Disney Mobile. Some past clients include ING Bank, Thompson, Pearson Education, RedHat, Logica CMG and Orange.
For more information, visit http://www.thegamebible.com.
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 Saddleback Youth Worker Ruben Meulenberg Charged With 5 Felony Counts – Saddleback Remaining Tight Lipped on Staff Issue
Ruben Meulenberg - Saddleback ChurchThe following is an update from two recent Lighthouse Trails articles: "Saddleback Church Youth Worker Arrested for Molesting 14-Year-Boys Brings Issue to Surface"  and "Saddleback Church Statement Appears to Downplay Role of Alleged Molester Ruben Meulenberg."

Ruben Meulenberg, the youth worker at Saddleback Church who was arrested for allegedly molesting two 14-year-old boys at Saddleback, has been charged with 5 felonies related to the molestation of the boys. At least one of the boys was 13 when the abuse began.
The following public information on the case has been released by the Orange County District Attorney's office:
Case #17HF070
  • Three felony counts of lewd acts on a child
  • Two felony counts of lewd acts on a child under 14-year-old
  • the above charges are given a Sentencing Enhancement for multiple victims (source)
Circumstances of the Case
* At the time of the crime, Meulenberg is accused of being a volunteer youth mentor at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest in a position of trust with access to children.
* Between May 2016 and May 2017, Meulenberg is accused of committing lewd acts on 13-year-old boys John Doe 1 and John Doe 2, both on and off church property.
* Between May 18, 2017, and May 22, 2017, the defendant is again accused of sexually molesting the victims, who were then 14 years old.
* On May 24, 2017, a Saddleback Church representative reported suspected inappropriate conduct to the Orange County Sheriff’s Department (OCSD), who investigated this case.
* Meulenberg was arrested by OCSD on Thursday, May 25, 2017.
* Prosecutor: Deputy District Attorney Courtney Thom, Sexual Assault Unit
After Lighthouse Trails released its May 29th article questioning whether Saddleback was downplaying the role in which Ruben Meulenberg had at Saddleback, the Christian Post ( which calls itself "the nation's most comprehensive Christian news website") wrote an article titled "Was Saddleback Church Youth Mentor Who Was Charged With Molesting Boys a Volunteer?" in which they referenced the Lighthouse Trails article questioning Saddleback's recent statement on Meulenberg being just a a volunteer. Interestingly, the Christian Post article revealed that as of yet Saddleback has not answered the question as to whether Ruben Meulenberg was on staff at Saddleback. While it may be true that he was a youth volunteer, certain indicators, as we pointed out in our previous article, suggest that Meulenberg may also have been on staff (see Appendix below), a claim that Saddleback has not yet denied or admitted.
The Christian Post article said that Rick Warren has not yet made a public statement about the case. According to the Christian Post's website search engine, the online paper has featured Saddleback Church and/or Rick Warren in over one thousand articles since 2004, and most, if not all, praise and promote the work of the Purpose Driven pastor and his church.
While in the bigger picture of Ruben Meulenberg and his victims, it may not matter at all whether he was truly on staff at Saddleback or not; but if Saddleback Church is refusing to admit that he has been paid for any of his services, either as a contractor or a staff member, this should certainly raise questions as to how much can the mega-church be trusted to protect the children under its care. If facts about abuse at Saddleback are being kept in the dark, this will not produce the kind of environment where healing can take place for victims or where parents can feel secure about their children's safety.

Appendix:

LinkedIn has the following information about Ruben Meulenberg:
Ruben Meulenberg

Saddleback Church | TornadoTwins | Age of Edge (game development)

Age of Edge, Corp

Rotterdam University of Applied Sciences

Orange County, California Area

Media producer operating in 5 areas: videogames, film, books, music & curriculum.

Companies founded:
- TheGameBible.com: in-house project, turning the Bible into a full videogame (www.TheGameBible.com).
- TornadoTwins.com: became the world's largest game development youtube channel in 3 months.
- FPSControl.com: tool to help midsize game studios create multi-platform games
- GamePrefabs.com: game development store [sold to Unity Tech; world's #1 game tech corp]
- more
Projects:
- Feature film: wrote, directed and co-produced Saddleback Kids' first feature film with production staff & volunteers. Used by 700+ churches and given out to 3000 children at Saddleback Lake Forest.
- Curriculum: co-founded fastest growing children's church curriculum organization in Holland. Trained Saddleback Church's children's production staff to use this format.
- Music: founded world's largest youtube channel on dubstep development (reached in 2 weeks), reached most-votes in Newsboys remix competition, created dance album for Saddleback Church, scored Triumph motorcycle commercial (engine sounds as bass).
- Game Development: developed YouVersion's Kid-Bible-App prototype in under two weeks. Co-organized web's largest gamedevelopment competition with cgsociety.org, trained thousands of game developers worldwide (including Disney's "where's my water" app developers), developing "The Game Bible" (see above).
- Writing: Oversaw writing of 3 years worth of narrative video series for Saddleback Church Childrens'. Wrote "The Unplugged", a book to help software developers create quickly and on as low a budget as possible.
- Marketing: helped triple attendance count on the annual online conference "The Twelve", resulting in 10,000+ attendees. Redesigned Saddleback Kids' summer outreach program, helping it rise from 4% new visitors in previous years to over 30% new visitors.
Appendix 2:
YouTube Comment from Lighthouse Trails author Gregory Reid -
I had an associate that went to Saddleback to look for cool church ideas and loved the idea that the sign over the youth building said, "No adults allowed." I was mortified. Creating an isolated youth subculture is deadly and creates a breeding ground for predators. I wrote a book called The Color of Pain that includes a checklist for identifying pedophiles, I think it's a crucial book in this vulnerable time for youth. When I was a youth pastor I did extreme vetting on every single volunteer or person who showed interest in our youth ministry, even the older college volunteers, and I watched them like hawks. Had to remove two adults who were predators looking for a kill. (source)
Gregory Reid is a child sexual abuse survivor. He wrote about his childhood in his book Nobody's Angel. His later book, The Color of Pain (published by LT) is a tribute to men who were sexually abused as boys.

Friday, May 5, 2017

A DELAWARE PASTOR'S ANSWER FOR A CHURCH IN DECLINE: MAKE CHURCH A BUSINESS; BE A STATISTICS FANATIC; LEARN TO BE A TECHIE; BE "MISSIONAL" & PURPOSE DRIVEN LIKE RICK WARREN

 DELAWARE'S PROBLEMS FOUND 
IN ITS SPIRITUAL DEADNESS
THIS PASTOR IS IN A PANIC 
AND AT A DEAD END! 
WHAT TO DO WHEN A CHURCH CAN'T GET PEOPLE SAVED OR DISCIPLED? CLOSE UP? NEVER!
GET 250 INSTEAD OF 150 VISITORS PER YEAR TO KEEP GROWTH AT 5% MINIMUM TO PAY BILLS?
TRY "SERVANT (STEALTH) EVANGELISM" AGAIN LIKE HE TRIED IN JANUARY 2014? 
PICK UP A AN UNNAMED CHURCH GROWTH BOOK AND STUDY IT, REVISE THE CONSTITUTION, BIND CONSCIENCES BY FORCING MEMBERS TO SIGN A NEW MEMBERSHIP AGREEMENT, HAVE THE ANNUAL PICNIC MOVED FROM A STATE PARK TO THE CHURCH PARKING LOT, HAVE CHILDREN BUILD "RACE CARS", LOTS OF CONTEMPORARY MUSIC, HAVE THE LADIES STUDY HERETICAL BOOKS, HAVE CHILDREN LEARN CONTEMPLATIVE MYSTICISM THROUGH AWANA, REFERENCE MANY APOSTATES AS MODELS TO FOLLOW IN SERMONS, MAKE NO WARNINGS ABOUT FALSE TEACHERS, BE ECUMENICAL, BE NON-DOCTRINAL, BE LOVING INSTEAD OF JUDGMENTAL, QUOTE OPEN LGBT PEOPLE, QUOTE PSYCHO-HERETICS, ETC.
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RICK WARREN, BILL HYBELS, LOUIE GIGLIO, ANDY STANLEY, BETH MOORE HAVE THE ANSWERS YET!
SERMON STARTS AT 30 MINUTE MARK AFTER A "WORSHIP" TIME FILLED WITH CCM MUSIC:
 HE FORGOT TO HAVE A NASCAR SERVICE TO BRING IN THE CROWDS!
RUN CHURCH LIKE A BUSINESS RE-DISCOVERED; 
BUT WHAT ARE THEY SELLING? 
SALVATION FOR A PRICE?

Monday, April 10, 2017

RICK WARREN: THINKING LIKE A PAGAN & A "THEOLOGY DISSING" JESUS

 
RICK WARREN: THINKING LIKE A PAGAN & 
A "THEOLOGY DISSING" JESUS
BY BUD AHLHEIM
republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
 
Remember how Jesus, when He came to earth as the Incarnate Son Of God, actually became a vile, depraved sinner so that He could adequately reach sinners in a relevant way with His Truth? Or that time the thrice-denying Peter answered Jesus’ thrice-offered query, “Do you love me?” in the negative, but only so he could do effective ministry among Jews who didn’t love Jesus either?  Or how about that story of the post-Damascus Road Paul who decided to forsake his apostolic calling and return to living as a self-righteous pagan so that he could reach pagans with the Gospel?
Don’t recall any of these things?  Hopefully, you don’t. I certainly don’t. But according to the “pastor” of the purpose gospel, Rick Warren, it’s this sort of Scripture-denying, command-disobeying tact believers must take in witnessing for the goal of church growth. The mega-church, mega-pastor – who obviously doesn’t focus on being “Mega-Scriptural” – touted this in a recent Pastors.com article, How To Understand How Unbelievers Think.
This stellar example of Biblical obtuseness on the part of Warren comes only days after the “quick, delete that” Tweet by his doctrinally-inept Saddleback Church.

Nice, huh? Just the perfect message to appeal to the post-modern, feelings first, experience seeking, “who are you to judge” mindset.   It’s the ideal sort of seeker-friendly message that might bring in pagan crowds, and just in time for Easter, too.  Surely they’ll think, “Wow! A church that doesn’t focus on ‘theology’ but is interested in ministry first! And you know what ‘ministry’ means? It means it’s all about me!   It should really be called “Minister-ME!’   And, just like Saddleback says, it’s what Jesus did! Yaaay!”

Saddleback received duly-deserved social media scorn from many and subsequently deleted the tweet. But notice something. While they deleted the tweet, they didn’t comment on it. No apology was proffered. No explanation of “that’s not really what we meant.” No confession that it was inaccurate, inappropriate, and posted in error. No “we’re counseling the person who erroneously posted on our behalf.” In effect, Saddleback offered no visible expression of repentance for proclaiming an arguably blasphemous view of Jesus.   But, that’s Saddleback, and that’s quite accurately the “other” Jesus of Saddleback. He’s one completely foreign to the pages of God’s Holy Word yet one who perfectly fits the “YOU-ology” touted by Warren.
But, a week or so after the “Jesus dissed theology” tweet, Warren came out with his “think like a pagan to witness to pagans” article. As with the deleted tweet, his article is an exercise in Biblical ignorance with more than a whiff of intentional Scriptural disregard – it includes not a single reference to Scripture, btw – but is replete with what an apostle would call the “wisdom of the world.” (1 Corinthians 3:19) It sounds more like it was written by a guy at the top of a get-rich-quick pyramidal marketing scheme than a guy genuinely concerned with obedience to, and proclamation of, the Truth of God in His Word.   But then that does fit the Warrenology modus operandi, does it not?
Warren, who – I could imagine – drives around (or is chauffeured around) Southern California with a “Honk If You Love The Pope” bumper sticker in some eco-friendly, steward-the-environment, “this’ll attract the millennials” electro-car, initiates his article with a chiding of churches for their sufficiently offensive-to-the-unchurched advertising. After all, for Warren the pastoral sales mega-coach, church isn’t what Jesus is building (Matthew 16:18) – not a body comprised of authentic believers given Him by the Father (John 17:24) – it’s what you, too, can create if you’re savvy, committed to success, know your purpose, and “subscribe to my Build Your Own Mega-Church The Warren Way” training program.
Because I’ve been a Christian for most of my life, I think like a Christian. I don’t normally think like an unbeliever. Worse than that, I tend to think like a pastor, and that’s even further removed from an unbeliever’s mindset! That means I must intentionally change mental gears when seeking to relate to non-Christians.
If you look at most church advertising, it’s obvious that it was written from a believer’s viewpoint — not from the mindset of the unchurched.
When you see a church ad that announces, “Preaching the Inerrant Word of God,” what group of people do you think that ad appeals to? Certainly not to unbelievers!
How absolutely egregious! That a church, which is supposed to be made up of genuine, Spirit-regenerated believers, would dare cater to genuine, Spirit-regenerated believers!  How appalling!  What are they thinking? That’s no way to reach pagans, fill your pews (and your coffers), and build your non-profit, multi-campus empire for Geeeezzzzuusss.
No, no, no.  Rick, you do not “think like a pastor,” at least not one that could be remotely identified by even the simplest New Testament attributes. (I’m thinking of “Preach the word” – 2 Timothy 4:2 – or “teach what accords with sound doctrine,” -Titus 2:1- for example.) Rick thinks he thinks like a pastor, but he promotes like a self-serving carnival barker on a late night infomercial. His theology-free Jesus is merely an example that confirms this. But, so far as those “deceiving and being deceived” (2 Timothy 3:13) are concerned, Warren is at the pinnacle of the post-modern idea of “church.”   If you want a “pastor” who’ll twist the Scriptures to make you feel good, grant you absolution for an offensive to Scripture, repeat after me prayer, and coddle you with a “no need to repent” message from his folded, spindled, and mutilated Bible, then Warren is your pope.
I’ve often heard pastors complain that unbelievers are more resistant to the Gospel today than in the past. I don’t think that is necessarily true. More often than not, resistance is just a response to poor communication.
The problem is that the message isn’t getting through. Churches need to stop saying that people are closed to the Gospel and start finding out how to communicate on their wavelength.
No matter how life-changing our message is, if we’re broadcasting on a different channel from the unchurched, it won’t do any good.
What? People are resistant to the Gospel?   The message is not getting through? Folks are “closed to the Gospel,” despite how “life changing” it is?  Really?  How can this be?  What do we do?
Fret not, because Warren the wonder Word-twister understands your problem. You need to “communicate on their wavelength.” You have to “broadcast” on the channel of the unchurched. You need to change channels, and for that, you have to change your message. (There’s a verse somewhere, I think, about tampering with God’s message … Oh, yes. Here are two. Deuteronomy 4:2 and Revelation 22:18-19 oughta suffice. Check them out on your own.)
The abide in my word believer (John 8:31) will understand immediately why the message isn’t being received.   The dead can’t hear. They can’t see. They can’t answer a call. They can’t reach out for the life preserver. They can’t understand spiritual things. They are dead. And nobody’s knocking on the door of their dead hearts. But that’s just going by the Book.  (See Ephesians 2:1, Ephesians 2:5, Colossians 2:13, 1 Corinthians 2:14, for further details on being spiritually dead.)
To go by Warren’s book, though, altering the message is the super secret way to ensure post-modern mega-church success and is a surefire method to get pagan posteriors planted in your plush pews. And the way to do that?   Think like a pagan.
How do you learn to think like unbelievers? Talk to them! One of the greatest barriers to evangelism is that most believers spend all their time with other Christians. They don’t have any non-believing friends. If you don’t spend any time with unbelievers, you won’t understand what they’re thinking.
Frankly, based on what comes out of Warren’s Saddleback bloviating, he’s one of the “greatest barriers to evangelism” himself.  When you promote a false, it’s all about you Jesus, you’re touting an “other” gospel that doesn’t save and is apostolically anathematized. (Galatians 1:9)  When you tell a believer to think like an unbeliever in order to reach the unbeliever, you’ve taken upon yourself the presumed ability to save.
But, Scripture makes pretty clear that “salvation is of the Lord.” (Jonah 2:9) Even before the wrongly- conceived, “theology-dissing Jesus” of Saddleback’s deleted tweet archives became the incarnate Son of God, the last book of the Old Testament tells us that it is God who does the work of salvation.   “I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated.” Malachi 1:2
Telling a believer to think like an unbeliever flies in the face of not only the ministry of Jesus, of Peter, of Paul, and of the entirety of the New Testament, but it’s also usurping specific apostolic commands which instruct us otherwise. We are never told in Scripture to mimic the thought processes of the pagan, even if for the noble goal of witnessing to them. Instead, we are told “we have the mind of Christ,” (1 Corinthians 2:16)  to think on things above not on things below (Colossians 3:2), to hate the things of this world, which would certainly include the depraved “thinking” of the world (1 John 2:15) and, from Paul, we are even given a list of things to “think about,” (Philippians 4:8) none of which would land on the “top ten list of things pagans think about.”  Telling believers to think like pagans is telling them to engage in sin.
We are told, commissioned, to proclaim a paradoxical Truth to the pagan – that God sacrificed His own Son to save man from God.  We are to proclaim this “you must be born again” message (John 3:1-8) to the pagan whose spiritually darkened, dead soul cannot apprehend it – apart from the sovereign, illuminating, regenerating, faith-gifting work of God. He saves, we merely proclaim. We cannot so twist God’s Gospel to make a Jacob out of an Esau, but we are to faithfully proclaim the Gospel so that God can save the “Jacobs” He has chosen from before the foundation of the world. (Ephesians 1:4)
But, if you just want to build a super successful non-profit business enterprise wrongly called a “church,” following Warren’s “think like a pagan” marketing plan makes sense. The five points of Warren, which put the mega-church mogul on his own way to ecumenical stardom, are drawn from savvy marketing wisdom, not from Scriptural truth. Using Warren’s unbiblical methods may gain you a club member, but those souls will be not a step closer to the pearly gates.
“I began Saddleback Church by going door to door for 12 weeks and surveying the unchurched in my area. I wrote down in my notebook five questions I would use to start Saddleback:”

Warren’s five points for mega-church mega-growth to achieve evangelical glory isn’t remotely Biblical.  In fact, doing a simple cut and paste maneuver to it would hardly cause one to think the questions were even about “church.”  Replace the word “church” with “social club,” “country club,” “society,” “alliance,” or any other organizational community structure and the responses given would likely reflect a negligible difference.  Why?  Who wouldn’t want to go to a place that caters to their express needs, wants, and desires?  But church ain’t Santa Claus and the unregenerate don’t need coddling; they need the Gospel.
But, by calling it “church,” it simply caters to fallen man’s innate need to worship and assuages his natural proclivity to be legalistic.  I’m going to church so God’s gotta be happy.  Such behavior may be culturally acceptable and superficially rewarding, but adherence to a false gospel doesn’t gain one points for glory.  Instead, Scripture says those who do such things are “merely storing up wrath.” (Romans 2:5)  Instead of hoping drops of Truth rub off on the legalistic, but unregenerate church goer, Christ has chosen to build His church by first saving souls.  The Spirit-regenerated believer is given something that Warren’s method cannot provide, nor does it even ask for – genuine repentance and faith that is evidenced by fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) and good works (James 2:17).
We don’t need to think like a pagan to share the Good News.  While it will be summarily rejected by most – after all, the road is wide that leads to destruction (Matthew 7:13-14) –  the Gospel is the only mechanism by which God saves. (Romans 1:16)  The proper goal for the believer – and for the church – is never numerical growth.  The proper, biblical goal is faithfulness. (2 Corinthians 5:7)
But for Rick Warren, and those who promote his theology-dissing Jesus (this is a false Jesus …) and his unbiblical, market-driven, do-it-yourself, build-a-church techniques (and this is an unbiblical tactic), we have been given a simple, apostle-approved, command.  “Avoid them.” (Romans 16:17-18)
[Contributed by Bud Ahlheim]
For more on the dangers of Rick Warren, see HERE.