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Sunday, February 22, 2015

SBC ETHICIST RUSSELL MOORE WOULD HAVE ALABAMA JUDGES BE OBEDIENT SLAVES OF FEDERAL SAME SEX MARRIAGE RULING PER ROMANS 13 MISINTERPRETATION & SET ASIDE STATE LAW, NATURAL LAW & CONSCIENCES



RUSSELL MOORE:
A FOOL THINKING HE'S DOING
THE WORK OF GOD BECOMES INSTEAD A
"TOOL IN THE HANDS OF SATAN";
CALLS FOR JUDGES' RESIGNATIONS;
TO LEAVE THE BATTLE FOR TRUTH
WOULD HAVE ALL CHRISTIANS
BOW TO EVIL LAW UNDER
ROMANS 13 
MISAPPLIED;
DENIES STATES RIGHTS OF ALABAMA

SOUTHERN BAPTIST "ETHICIST"
RUSSELL MOORE LECTURES JUDGE ROY MOORE OF ALABAMA & ALL ALABAMA JUDGES TO OBEY FEDERAL JUDGE RULING AND PERFORM SAME SEX MARRIAGES, TO SET ASIDE THEIR CONSCIENCES, THE NATURAL LAW, AND STATE LAW
EXCERPTS:
But Moore said that until the high court rules on the matter, last month’s federal court ruling striking down Alabama’s Sanctity of Marriage Amendment must be followed. “As citizens and as Christians, our response should be one of both conviction and of respect for the rule of law,” he remarked. “Our system of government does not allow a state to defy the law of the land.”
“In a Christian ethic, there is a time for civil disobedience in cases of unjust laws,” Moore continued. “That’s why, for instance, Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr. went to jail. In the case of judges and state Supreme Court justices, though, civil disobedience, even when necessary, cannot happen in their roles as agents of the state.”
He then explained his belief that if one does not wish to follow the law, then they should resign from their position.
“Given the high bar required for civil disobedience, the way to address same-sex marriage in this circumstance is not by defying the rule of law, but by making our case before the legitimate authorities,” Moore stated. “If we lose, our responsibility is to advocate as citizens for our views, even if that project is (as in the case of the pro-life movement) a long-term project, while we work for our constitutional guarantees of freedom of conscience and religious liberty.”
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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (Christian Examiner) -- The head of the Southern Baptist Convention's public policy arm says Alabama judges who in good conscience cannot issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, should resign instead of fighting the law while in office.
Russell D. Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission and no relation to Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, was quoted in the Baptist Press, the SBC's official news service, as being in conflict with approximately 44 of 67 Alabama probate judges who have refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. These jurists are acting in defiance of an order by U.S. District Court Judge Callie Granade who invalidated an Alabama constitutional amendment, passed by 81 percent of voters, defining marriage in the state as only between one man and one woman.
The issue arose in large part because Judge Roy Moore issued guidance to state judges Sunday night, Feb. 8, ahead of the expiration of a 14-day stay blocking same-sex marriage in Alabama. Citing the Alabama Constitution as appointing him, as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, the administrative head of the state judicial system, he quoted Alabama law authorizing him to "take affirmative and appropriate action to correct or alleviate any condition or situation adversely affecting the administration of justice within the state."
He then ordered "no Probate Judge of the State of Alabama nor any agent or employee of any Alabama Probate Judge shall issue or recognize a marriage license that is inconsistent" with the Alabama Constitution of state law.
On principle I did the right thing. But it's not about the Ten Commandments, and it's not about my feelings, it's about the law. And my law, Alabama law, states that I'm the chief administrative officer of the judicial system and I must act when the jurisdiction of the probate court is interfered with by one lone judge who has no power or authority to tell them how to interpret the federal Constitution.
- Chief Justice Roy Moore












RUSSELL MOORE
Russell Moore, a national official charged with representing Southern Baptists' beliefs with regard to culture and public policy, told Baptist Press any judge who "could not discharge the duties of his office required by law" because of objections of conscience "would need to resign and protest it as a citizen."
He said that there is a role for civil disobedience, but not for "judges and state Supreme Court justices ... in their roles as agents of the state."
Russell Moore's dissent with some Alabama judges was published the same day Judge Roy Moore, also a Southern Baptist, said just the opposite in a heated debate with CNN's Chris Cuomo.
ROY MOORE & CNN
Cuomo, son of liberal icon Mario Cuomo, recently deceased former New York governor, argued Alabama Chief Justice Moore "did not have to do this" and accused the judge of "acting on principle" instead of the rule of law in this instance as he did in another case in which Moore fought a federal judge's order and kept a stone monument of the Ten Commandments in the Alabama judicial building -- an action which led to his removal from office.
Cuomo raised the specter of segregation "in states like yours" which district courts ended by making rulings states had to follow.
But Roy Moore retorted that the issue is not discrimination but "about sexual preference overcoming an institution which has existed in our state—in our United States—for centuries. And I think it's wrong."
Cuomo asked Judge Moore what he would do if the Supreme Court decided in favor of same-sex marriage.
The judge rejoined Cuomo by asking him if he would have followed the order in Dred Scott "that said black people are property" and Plessy vs. Ferguson "which said that separate but equal is the policy of the United States."
"Can you answer that please?" he asked.
Cuomo dodged the question.
BIBLICAL GUIDANCE
Russell Moore cited familiar biblical passages to justify his position that Chief Justice Roy Moore and the defiant probate judges are wrong.
"As citizens and as Christians, our response should be one of both conviction and of respect for the rule of law (1 Peter 2:13; Romans 13). Our system of government does not allow a state to defy the law of the land," Russell Moore wrote, according to Baptist Press.
"Religious freedom and conscience objections must be balanced with a state's obligation to discharge the law," the Southern Baptists' ethicist said.
NEW YORK TIMES
But the New York Times' Emily Bazelon agreed with Chief Justice Roy Moore about the "process" of the law in this case, calling it "peculiar."
"District-court rulings, even if they're about important matters of policy, usually affect only the people involved in the case in question," she wrote. "They don't typically make law for an entire state; that responsibility falls to a state's highest court, or a federal appeals court -- in this case the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit -- or eventually the Supreme Court, which makes law for the country."
"But in the case of Granade's ruling on the gay-marriage ban, both the federal appeals court and the Supreme Court have stood aside," the NYT article continued, "leaving Granade in the highly unusual position of remaking law and policy for the entire state of Alabama."
"[Judge] Moore is telling state judges not to follow Granade's order. To contest the statewide application of her ruling is a far more legitimate form of fist-shaking by a state official than contesting an order from a higher federal court would be," Bazelon concluded.
OTHER VIEWS OF SCRIPTURE
Others have a different take than Russell Moore on the biblical responsibilities of Christian judges facing objections of conscience.
Southern Baptist Rick Burgess, an overwhelmingly popular Christian radio personality throughout the South and an Alabama native, sent a strongly worded tweet to encourage probate judges who "claim to follow Christ" to "make a stand and refuse to sign same-sex marriage licenses."
He followed up his social media message with a statement to AL.com that he felt Christian judges are "in a Daniel moment."
"Daniel followed the law of the land until it asked him to go against God and the Bible tells us that Daniel had resolved in his heart that he would not worship the king, even though it was the law," he said. "If you are a Christian and a probate judge do you condone a version of marriage that goes against God even though it's the current law of the land? Martin Luther King Jr. in his letter from a Birmingham jail covered this when explaining to fellow pastors why he would continue to break 'unjust' laws."
He added that Christians had an equal right to raise their families in a society reflecting their convictions.
"It's time to fight," he said.
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The Hiding Place-Decision About Obeying a Higher Law
PASTOR:"You Can't Keep The (Jewish) Baby; 
It's Against the (NAZI) Law":


SAVING JEWS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ILLEGAL (AGAINST THE "GOD ORDAINED" AUTHORITIES):
Corrie Ten Boom Her testimony in her own words Full Length:
Uploaded on Feb 1, 2011
Cornelia "Corrie" ten Boom (April 15, 1892 -- April 15, 1983) was a Dutch Christian Holocaust survivor who helped many Jews escape the Nazis during World War II.

n May 1942, a well-dressed woman came to the Ten Boom door with a suitcase in hand. She told the Ten Booms that she was a Jew and that her husband had been arrested several months before, and her son had gone into hiding. Occupation authorities had recently visited her, and she was too fearful to return home. After hearing about how the Ten Booms had helped their Jewish neighbors, the Weils (while this is the name given in her book, the actual name of the furrier across the street was N Weill & zoon), she asked if she might stay with them, and Corrie ten Boom's father readily agreed. A devoted reader of the Old Testament, Casper ten Boom believed Jews were indeed "the chosen," and told the woman, "In this household, God's people are always welcome."
Thus began "the hiding place", or "de schuilplaats", as it was known in Dutch (also known as "de Béjé", pronounced in Dutch as 'bayay', an abbreviation of the name of the street the house was in, the Barteljorisstraat). Ten Boom and her sister began taking in refugees, some of whom were Jews, others members of the resistance movement sought by the Gestapo and its Dutch counterpart. There were several extra rooms in their house, but food was scarce due to wartime shortages. Every non-Jewish Dutch person had received a ration card with which they could procure weekly coupons to buy food.
Corrie knew many in Haarlem, thanks to her charitable work, and remembered a couple who had a developmentally disabled daughter. For about twenty years, Corrie Ten Boom had run a special church service program for such children, and knew the family. The father was a civil servant who was by then in charge of the local ration-card office. She went to his house unannounced one evening, and he seemed to know why. When he asked how many ration cards she needed, "I opened my mouth to say, 'Five,'" Ten Boom wrote in The Hiding Place. "But the number that unexpectedly and astonishingly came out instead was: 'One hundred.'"

Because of the number of people using their house as a safe place from the Nazis, the Ten Booms were encouraged to build a secret room in case a raid took place. After inspection, it was decided that the room would be built in Corrie's bedroom, as it was in the highest part of the house, which gave people who were trying to hide the most time to avoid detection (as a search would start on the ground floor). The hidden room was behind a false wall, designed by a member of the Dutch resistance. They were able to sneak bricks and other building supplies into the house by hiding them in briefcases and rolled up newspapers. When finished, the secret room was about 30 inches deep; the size of a medium wardrobe. A ventilation system allowed for breathing. To enter the secret room, a person would have to open a sliding panel in a cupboard, and crawl in on their hands and knees. In addition, an electronic buzzer was installed to give the house's residents warning of a raid. When the Nazis raided the Ten Boom house in 1944, six people used the hiding place to escape detection.

The Germans arrested the entire Ten Boom family on February 28, 1944 at around 12:30 with the help of a Dutch informant. They were sent first to Scheveningen prison (where her father died ten days after his capture). Corrie's sister Nollie, brother Willem, and nephew Peter were all released. Later, Corrie and Betsie were sent to the Vught political concentration camp (both in the Netherlands), and finally to the notorious Ravensbrück concentration camp in Germany on December 16, 1944, where Corrie's sister Betsie died. Before she died she told Corrie, "There is no pit so deep that God's love is not deeper still." Corrie was released on New Year's Eve of December 1944.[2] In the movie The Hiding Place, Ten Boom narrates the section on her release from camp, saying that she later learned that her release had been a clerical error. The women prisoners her age in the camp were killed the week following her release. She said, "God does not have problems. Only plans."


Ravensbrück Concentration Camp:
Published on Oct 29, 2013
Ravensbrück was a women's concentration camp during World War II, located in northern Germany, 90 km north of Berlin at a site near the village of Ravensbrück (part of Fürstenberg/Havel).
Construction of the camp began in November 1938 by SS leader Heinrich Himmler and was unusual in that it was a camp primarily for women and children. The camp opened in May 1939. In the spring of 1941, the SS authorities established a small men's camp adjacent to the main camp. Between 1939 and 1945, over 130,000 female prisoners passed through the Ravensbrück camp system; around 40,000 were Polish and 26,000 were Jewish. Between 15,000 and 32,000 of the total survived. Although the inmates came from every country in German-occupied Europe, the largest single national group incarcerated in the camp consisted of Polish women.
Siemens & Halske employed many of the slave labor prisoners.

The first prisoners at Ravensbrück were approximately 900 women. The SS had transferred these prisoners from the Lichtenburg women's concentration camp in Saxony in May 1939. By the end of 1942, the inmate population of Ravensbrück had grown to about 10,000.
There were children in the camp as well. At first, they arrived with mothers who were Gypsies or Jews incarcerated in the camp or were born to imprisoned women. There were few of them at the time. There were a few Czech children from Lidice in July 1942. Later the children in the camp represented almost all nations of Europe occupied by Germany. Between April and October 1944 their number increased considerably, consisting of two groups. One group was composed of Roma children with their mothers or sisters brought into the camp after the Roma camp in Auschwitz-Birkenau was closed. The other group included mostly children who were brought with Polish mothers sent to Ravensbrück after the collapse of the Warsaw Uprising of 1944. With a few exceptions all these children died of starvation. Ravensbrück had 70 sub-camps used for slave labour that were spread across an area from the Baltic Sea to Bavaria.
Among the thousands executed by the Germans at Ravensbrück were four female members of the British World War II organization Special Operations Executive: Denise Bloch, Cecily Lefort, Lilian Rolfe and Violette Szabo. Other victims included the Roman Catholic nun Élise Rivet, Elisabeth de Rothschild (the only member of the Rothschild family to die in the Holocaust), Russian Orthodox nun St. Maria Skobtsova, the 25-year-old French Princess Anne de Bauffremont-Courtenay and Olga Benário, wife of the Brazilian Communist leader Luís Carlos Prestes. The largest group of executed women at the Ravensbrück camp was composed of 200 young Polish patriots who were members of the Home Army.
Among the survivors of the Ravensbrück camp was Christian author and speaker Corrie ten Boom. Corrie ten Boom and her family were arrested by the Nazis for harbouring Jews in their home in Haarlem, the Netherlands. The ordeal of Corrie and her sister Betsie ten Boom in the camp is documented in her book The Hiding Place which was eventually produced as a motion picture. Countess Karolina Lanckoronska, a Polish art historian and author of Michelangelo in Ravensbruck also was imprisoned in the camp from 1943--1945. Eileen Nearne, a member of the Special Operations Executive was a prisoner in 1944 before being transferred to another work camp and escaping. Additional Ravensbruck survivors include Gemma LaGuardia Gluck - who wrote a memoir about her experiences at the camp and afterward - her daughter Yolande, and Yolande's baby son.
During her imprisonment in Ravensbrück, the anthropologist and member of the French resistance Germaine Tillion secretly wrote a comic operetta about camp life titled Le Verfügbar aux Enfers. In 1975, she published a comprehensive study of the camp, Ravensbruck: An eyewitness account of a women's concentration camp.
In 1945, just prior to liberation, the poet, playwright and author of The Green Goos, Konstanty Ildefons Galczynski, managed to save one of the Ravensbruck inmates from certain death. Her name was Lucyna Wolanowska. They began living together, and in January 1946 their son was born, also named Konstanty Ildefons Gałczyński. Later that same year Lucyana Wolanowska and her son emigrated to Australia.

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Corrie Ten Boom "Return to the Hiding Place" Trailer
For New Movie 
Published on Dec 5, 2014
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World War II relocation internment in "War Relocation Camps" of over 110,000 people of Japanese heritage who lived on the Pacific coast of the United States. The USA government ordered the internment in 1942, shortly after Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. The internment of Japanese Americans was applied unequally as a geographic matter: all who lived on the West Coast were interned, while in Hawaii, where 150,000-plus Japanese Americans comprised over one-third of the population. Sixty-two percent of the internees were American citizens

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Corrie ten Boom and her sister Betsie were sent to Ravensbruck concentration camp, where Betsie died in the concentration camp.

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Corrie Ten Boom The Hiding Place is a true story it really happened Cornelia "Corrie" ten Boom Amsterdam, The Netherlands Corrie was a Dutch Christian, who with her father and other family members helped many Jews escape the Nazi Holocaust during World War II. Her family was arrested due to an informant in 1944, and her father died 10 days later at Scheveningen prison.

Corrie also aided Holocaust survivors in the Netherlands. In 1940, the Nazis invaded the Netherlands. In 1942, Corrie and her family had become very active in the Dutch underground, hiding refugees. They rescued many Jews from the Nazi SS. Corrie and sister Betsie began taking in refugees, some of whom were Jews

Corrie was released from Ravensbruck concentration camp on December 28, 1944. One of Corrie and Betsie's favorite sayings was, "There is no pit so deep that God is not
deeper still.

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