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Saturday, December 28, 2019

THE NEW GNOSTICS IN TODAY'S CHURCH

THE NEW GNOSTICS IN TODAY'S CHURCH 
BY BILL RANDLES (Author of the new release, War Against the Saints)
republished below in full unedited for informational, educational and research 
purposes:
I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. (1 John 2:21)
The church is undergoing perhaps her final assault from within, as she has been beset with a new wave of Gnostics who have entered in.
What is Gnosticism? One definition of Gnosticism states:
Gnosticism was built on Greek philosophy that taught matter was evil and the Spirit was good. . . . So-called “Christian Gnostics” said since matter was evil, God could not really incarnate in a human body; He only appeared in human form and only appeared to suffer, but basically, it was an illusion. . . .
Prior to Christianity, the Gnostics taught that man is composed of body, soul, and spirit. The body and the soul are man’s earthly existence and were considered evil. Enclosed in man’s soul is the spirit, a divine substance of man. This “spirit” was asleep and ignorant and needed to be awakened. It could only be liberated by a special knowledge that would be later called “illumination.”1
The apostle Paul saw that Gnostic influences were coming into the church, and he addressed them in his epistles (Colossians 2:8-23, 1 Timothy 1:4, 2 Timothy 2:16-19, and Titus 1:10-16).
Gnostics (“knowing ones”) redefined the knowledge of God (i.e., what it means to know and communicate with God). They were elitists who sought “deeper knowledge” than that which is revealed in God’s Word. Gnostics despised doctrine, dismissing it as mere head knowledge.
They held forth a view of “salvation” which was, in fact, merely a self-realization rather than the rescue from sin and judgment through the blood of Jesus (which the Bible says is the only means of atoning for sin).
Gnostics believed that self-realization wasn’t for every Christian but only available to elite Christians who are let in on the secret knowledge (the so-called “secrets of the kingdom” available only to the initiated). The same attacks are presently being launched as dogma also. The “dry, dusty doctrines of another day” are being jettisoned by the “new” Gnostics of today who eagerly covet “new revelation” or “present truth.”
Gnostics influenced me early in my walk with Jesus. I was given a pack of Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagin teachings and entered into the “deep revelations” of the Word Faith heresy. I learned such “revelations” as the following: the believer is just as much an incarnation as Jesus was, faith is a force, and we all can learn to use the laws of faith to get what we need. (If this were true, we wouldn’t need God; we would simply learn the laws of faith and control it like the force. )
The deepest, darkest core of the Gnostic teaching was that we believers are in “God’s class of being.” In other words, “we are little gods” who just don’t realize it yet.
According to the modern Gnostics, Jesus Himself was a man of faith upon whom the Holy Spirit came. He knew all of the laws of faith, which was why He could die on the Cross. Anyone could do so if he or she had the same “revelation knowledge” as Jesus.
Kenneth Copeland, the Word Faith preacher, is certainly one of today’s Gnostics. Here is a sampling of some of his teachings:
Every prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic covenant could have paid the price if it were a physical death only. When He said “It is finished” on that cross, He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. The plan of redemption had just begun; there were still three days and three nights to be gone through.2
The Spirit of God spoke to me and He said, “Son, realize this. Now follow me in this and don’t let your tradition trip you up.” He said, “Think this way—a twice-born man whipped Satan in his own domain.” And I threw my Bible down . . . like that. I said, “What?” He said, “A born-again man defeated Satan, the firstborn of many brethren defeated him.” He said, “You are the very image, the very copy of that one.” I said, “Goodness, gracious sakes alive!” And I began to see what had gone on in there, and I said, “Well now you don’t mean, you couldn’t dare mean, that I could have done the same thing?” He said, “Oh yeah, if you’d had the knowledge of the Word of God that He did, you could have done the same thing, ’cause you’re a reborn man too.”3
What blasphemy! A whole generation of Christians has been swept away and corrupted on the deepest level by accepting this man’s unbiblical teachings.
John Wimber was a Quaker who came into the charismatic movement. He eventually taught a famous course at Fuller Seminary, MC510 “Signs, Wonders, and Church Growth,” which launched a “signs and wonders” movement that spread Gnostic teachings throughout the Earth. Eventually, this movement became the Vineyard Fellowship.
Of interest is that Wimber taught that a “paradigm shift” in thinking was necessary to bring the church into “power evangelism.” In my book, Weighed and Found Wanting, I explain:
Wimber, Kraft, White and Williams, as well as many other Third Wave teachers, have been calling for a “paradigm shift” for some time now . . .  A paradigm shift is a total exchange of your world view! . . . What is the shift? It is from a primarily Western, rational, logical, objective point of view to an Eastern, subjective, experiential paradigm. Haven’t we been subtly taught over the years that the Western mind set is cold, calculated, rational, based on just the observable facts? On the other hand, allegedly, the Eastern is mystical, from the heart, and based on experience?
Wimber teaches, “We must remember always that the Bible was written in the Middle East, not with rational assumption, that we bring to it as we try to understand it, but with an experiential assumption.”4 I interpret him to be saying that the Bible is not so much an objective book, but a subjective one. Not so much for understanding God mentally, but for experiencing Him intimately.
In another tape, Wimber explains: “You tell someone from the Far or Middle East that cotton only grows in warm semi-arid climates. England is cold and wet. [Ask them] Does cotton grow in England? The answer you’ll get is, ‘I don’t know, I haven’t been to England.’” Or, “I can’t say unless I’ve been there, (experience).”5 This is the new paradigm, a down playing of doctrine or “head knowledge” in favour of mystical experience. Another variation of this is, “God is bigger than His written word,” translated, God wants to bring you into experiences that aren’t in the limits of scripture. Just knowing God “doctrinally” is not sufficient, you now must have self-authenticating experiences. All of these attitudes are the end result of the New Paradigm. This is the shift from primarily objective to subjective thinking in our approach to truth.6
Perhaps the premier proponent of Gnosticism in the evangelical and charismatic church these days is Bill Johnson, the senior pastor of Bethel Church in Redding, California. Johnson’s church is the current version of the Toronto Airport Vineyard and Brownsville Assembly of God pilgrimage sites where people influenced by Gnosticism come to “experience” God.
Through Bethel and most notably through their worship team (a popular rock band called “Jesus Culture”), Bethel reaches hundreds of thousands with its Gnostic message of anti-doctrinal, experience-based, New Age-emulating  “power” evangelism.
I believe Bethel literally represents the final stages of the apostasy, the slide into the occult which I wrote about in the revised version of my book, Beware the New Prophets.
Here is an example of this redefinition of Christianity and the knowledge of God in occult terms promoted by Gnostics such as those associated with Bethel. An article in The Christian Post titled “Bethel Responds to Christian Tarot Cards Controversy” reported that Bethel “was accused of working with a Melbourne, Australia-based group known as Christalignment, which claims to have worked with many churches in that country to do such readings.”7 According to the article, Bethel denied using “Christian tarot cards.” The article stated:
Bethel admitted the leaders of Christalignment, Ken and Jenny Hodge, are connected with several of their church members as the Hodges are the parents to church evangelist Ben Fitzgerald, and said the church leaders “have a value for what they are seeking to accomplish.”
“They (Christalignment) stand in agreement with the Scriptures that all occult practices (like tarot cards) have no place in the Kingdom and should not be used,” Bethel said in a statement.
Christ Alignment staff describe themselves as “trained spiritual consultants,” and say on their website that they “draw from the same divine energy of the Christ spirit.”8
Christ Alignment staff further stated that,
We practice a form of supernatural healing that flows from the universal presence of the Christ. We draw from the same divine energy of the Christ spirit, as ancient followers did and operate only out of the third heaven realm to gain insight and revelation.9
Satan has seduced large segments of the professing church into Gnosticism and the occult. Like King Saul in the last desperate hours of his life, some have gone into darkness seeking power and a “word” of comfort, having already rejected the true Word of God.
Endnotes:
  1. Mike Oppenheimer, “What is Gnosticism?” (Let Us Reason Ministries, http://www.letusreason.org/Current48.htm).
  2. Kenneth Copeland, “What Satan Saw on the Day of Pentecost,” audiotape #BCC-19, side 1.
  3. Kenneth Copeland, “Substitution and Identification,” 1989, tape #00-0202, side 2.
  4. F.V. Scott, “John Wimber and the Vineyard Ministries” (Passport magazine), p. 19.
  5. John Wimber, “Ministering in England” Audio Tape (Media Spotlight Report); John Goodwin, “Testing the Fruit of the Vineyard” (Media Spotlight Report, 1990).
  6. Bill Randles, Weighed and Found Wanting: Putting the Toronto Blessing in Context (St. Matthews Publishing, 1995), p. 81.
  7. Anugrah Kumar, “Bethel Church Responds to ‘Christian Tarot Cards’ Controversy” (Christian Post, January 6, 2018; https://www.christianpost.com/news/bethel-church-responds-christian-tarot-cards-controversy-212796.
  8. Ibid.
  9. Ibid.
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ROBERTA MORRISON: 

The Battle Between Christianity And The New Age

Wednesday, September 13, 2017

"SOZO"-CLIMBING UP ANOTHER WAY~IS THERE A SPIRITUAL LADDER TO THE LAP OF "FATHER GOD"?

"HEALING & DELIVERANCE MINISTRY"
 https://manlylife.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sozo.gif
 CLIMBING UP ANOTHER WAY~
IS THERE A SPIRITUAL LADDER 
TO THE LAP OF "FATHER GOD"?
republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
 
LTRP Note: Recently, a caller asked us if we had any information on SOZO. While we have had inquiries about SOZO in the past, we have never posted anything about it. Below is an article from The Berean Call discussing the origins and nature of SOZO. If you know someone who is getting involved with this, please pass this article on to them.
“Climbing Up Another Way – Is There A Spiritual Ladder to the Lap of ‘Father God’?”
By Mark Dinsmore (The Berean Call)
History and Structure of Sozo
“SOZO” is a psycho-spiritual deliverance and inner healing methodology birthed out of Bethel Church in Redding, California. But though the Bethel Sozo website banner says, “[A] Ministry of Bethel Church,” the FAQ section disclaims, “The Sozo staff are independent contractors and are not Bethel Church Staff.” Apparently for legal reasons, no one wants to call this “counseling” or “therapy.” Rather, they simply call it “healing prayer” (and yet, they strongly recommend a suggested donation for receiving “prayer” for which recipients (“Sozoees”) must first sign a waiver.
For background, it is interesting to note that Bethel was once an Assemblies of God (AG) church, and Bill Johnson was an AG pastor; but he led his flock out of AG in 2006 to jump into the NAR/River Revival movement. Johnson is now a self-appointed “apostle,” and his church is now a part of his own “Revival Alliance” network, co-founded with Che Ahn (Harvest Rock Church, Pasadena, CA) and John Arnott (Catch the Fire Toronto; formerly Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship; formerly Toronto Airport Vineyard Church).
Although Sozo got its start at Bethel, other Sozo groups have spun off, such as The Freedom Resource (TFR). Headed by author and executive director Andy Reese, TFR publishes its own manuals and presentations on how to use Sozo. According to TFR’s website, no one individual “owns” or controls the copyright for Sozo concepts and “tools” used in the program: “This particular style or format for ministry has evolved (and continues to evolve) from roots in the Argentine revivals, the understanding and writings of various practitioners of inner healing and deliverance, and from the experience of several churches and individuals including Randy Clark’s ministry and Bethel Church in Redding, California. It is changing and growing as we all learn, grow, and share experiences and tools with each other.” [Note: TFR just announced brand differentiation from Bethel Sozo and will now practice under “Freedom Prayer.”] Click here to continue reading.
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SEE OUR PREVIOUS POST ALSO: HEALING ROOMS
https://ratherexposethem.blogspot.com/2013/01/randy-clark-bill-johnson.html 

Tuesday, October 11, 2016

HYPOCRITE WAYNE GRUDEM, CONTINUATIONIST THEOLOGIAN EXTRAORDINAIRE, PULLS SUPPORT FOR TRUMP; PROVIDES MORAL JUSTIFICATION FOR "RINO" REPUBLICANS FOR THEIR TURNING AGAINST TRUMP

"THEOLOGIAN IN RESIDENCE" 

FOR JOHN WIMBER'S 

CHARISMATIC "VINEYARD CHURCH"; 

ON THE TRANSLATION COMMITTEE FOR THE ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION OF THE BIBLE

WHO THEN IS FIT TO BE PRESIDENT IN THIS MAN'S WORLD? HE WON'T SAY!

www.waynegrudem.com

Is Wayne Grudem Lying About Not Knowing Donald Trump’s Past? Watch The Video

BY TOBIN GRANT
SEE: http://religionnews.com/2016/10/10/is-wayne-grudem-lying-about-not-knowing-donald-trumps-past-watch-the-video/republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:

The video of Donald Trump bragging about his infidelity and describing his assaults on women have put many of his supporters in a bind. Do they stick with Trump? If they rescind their support, how do they justify turning on him now and not sooner?
Evangelical theologian Wayne Grudem was in a particularly sticky situation. Grudem is a thought-leader to many evangelicals. His book on theology is (literally) required reading in many evangelical churches. Because of this, his defense of Donald Trump as “a morally good choice” drew a lot of attention among evangelicals.
Then came the video of Trump boasting of his infidelity, attempts to sleep with a married woman, and his sexual assaults on women. Grudem wrote a new essay and had Townhall.com take down his previous defense of Trump. An archived copy of his July essay is still available.
But this isn’t the story of a theologian who came to his senses. This is the story of a theologian who railed against Trump’s infidelity as disqualifying in February, downplayed Trump’s past as a mere “flaw” in July, and now claims he was ignorant of Trump’s past now that Trump has become too embarrassing for a theologian to support.
In his updated assessment of the ethics of voting Trump, Grudem stated,
I previously called Donald Trump a “good candidate with flaws” and a “flawed candidate” but I now regret that I did not more strongly condemn his moral character. I cannot commend Trump’s moral character, and I strongly urge him to withdraw from the election.
He says he came to this new conclusion after seeing the video of Trump, which opened his eyes to Trump’s immorality.
His vulgar comments in 2005 about his sexual aggression and assaults against women were morally evil and revealed pride in conduct that violates God’s command, “You shall not commit adultery” (Exodus 20:14). I have now read transcripts of some of his obscene interviews with Howard Stern, and they turned my stomach. His conduct was hateful in God’s eyes and I urge him to repent and call out to God for forgiveness, and to seek forgiveness from those he harmed. God intends that men honor and respect women, not abuse them as sexual objects.
The video made Trump’s words and actions clear, but they were not surprising. The video revealed little new information. This is not a case of a hypocrite being caught in a lie. Trump had a history of bragging about his infidelity and sexual behavior. So why turn on Trump now based on his moral character?
Grudem’s excuse is that he didn’t know. He says he should have known, but he didn’t do enough research:
Some may criticize me for not discovering this material earlier, and I think they are right. I did not take the time to investigate earlier allegations in detail, and I now wish I had done so. If I had read or heard some of these materials earlier, I would not have written as positively as I did about Donald Trump.
The only problem with this I-didn’t-do-my-homework excuse is that he is on record of knowing about Trump’s boasts of infidelity and exploitation of women.
In his earlier endorsement, Grudem acknowledged Trump’s past.
“[Trump] has been married three times and claims to have been unfaithful in his marriages,” Grudem said. “These are certainly flaws, but I don’t think they are disqualifying flaws in this election.”
But the real evidence of Grudem’s understanding of Trump comes from a video of an address he gave to pastors during an Illinois Family Institute event in February.
Grudem stated again and again that Trump’s infidelity and moral character disqualified Trump “because a man who cannot be trusted to be faithful in his marriage cannot be trusted to lead the most powerful nation on earth.”
Grudem was explicit about Trump boasting about his infidelity and sexual past:
Now we have a Republican candidate leading in many polls who boasts that he has slept with many women, married and unmarried, many of the most beautiful women in the world. He boasts about it and yet he is leading in many polls. Does a man’s moral character no longer matter in choosing someone to be the most powerful man in the world?
Grudem went further, recounting that Trump made millions of dollars on casinos and strip clubs. Grudem said that these strip clubs “scarred the souls” of women and men.
Grudem called on pastors to speak out that “moral character matters” and to remind themselves that “moral character matters” when they are tempted to vote for Trump.
During his talk, Grudem avoided saying the name “Trump.” Instead, in the middle of his discussion of Trump’s past, Grudem joked, “I’m not going to mention the candidate’s name. If you don’t know, you have no business voting.”
The audience laughed because they knew Trump and his character. So did Grudem.
But now, in the aftermath of Trump’s so-called locker-room banter video, Grudem expects evangelicals to believe that he did not know Trump lacked the moral character to be president.
Grudem claims he made a mistake by not following up on “allegations” made against Trump. It’s not true. In February, he was willing and able to rattle off Trump’s immoral behaviors, including his boasts of infidelity, in a forceful charge that Trump’s moral character made him unfit for office.
Grudem is acting as if now—and only now—he has enough information to conclude that Trump treats women as sexual objects. The video shows the opposite. Grudem knew Trump’s past. He talked about it in detail. He called on pastors to talk about Trump’s treatment of women and to not be tempted to back Trump. Between then and July, Grudem failed to follow his own advice to pastors.
The video released this weekend did not provide new information. It did not reveal anything new about Trump’s moral character. But it did reveal something about Grudem’s own moral choices.
And the choice Grudem must now face is whether he is willing to admit that he knew Trump’s past but ignored it or if he wants to continue to feign ignorance of something he already knew about Trump.
You should also read Jonathan Merritt’s column from July, Wayne Grudem, Donald Trump and admitting when you’re not an expert
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SEE OUR PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT WAYNE GRUDEM: 
AND FROM OTHER AUTHORS:
http://www.challies.com/interviews/continuationism-and-cessationism-part-2-an-interview-with-dr-wayne-grudem
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GRUDEM: Why Pastors Should Preach About Political Policies
IF AND WHEN HE DOES, 
IT'S NOT CONSERVATIVE
Grudem: Politics According to the Bible, 
or According to Grudem?
                                 
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Wayne Grudem’s Flip-Flop on the Donald Trump Moral Conundrum

BY JEFF MAPLES
SEE: http://pulpitandpen.org/2016/10/10/wayne-grudems-flip-flop-on-the-donald-trump-moral-conundrum/republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:

Remember back in July when Wayne Grudem said this?
I do not think that voting for Donald Trump is a morally evil choice because there is nothing morally wrong with voting for a flawed candidate if you think he will do more good for the nation than his opponent. In fact, it is the morally right thing to do.
We at Pulpit & Pen have continually warned about the lack of discernment in those who are pushing support for the morally “flawed” presidential candidate, Donald Trump. In fact, we believe that the same lack of discernment that would allow Grudem to be a continuationist–or sign an ecumenical document like the Manhattan Declaration–or pronounce a devout Roman Catholic saved, is the same lack of discernment that would allow him to throw his support behind the debauched candidate. We’ve heard over and over about how much worse the opponent is, therefore, we need to vote to “do the least damage.”
Grudem, a man who believes we can still hear directly from God today outside of Scripture, was unable to predict the moral catastrophe that Trump has become.
The issue here is that anyone with a sense of biblical discernment could see that Trump’s character was a cataclysmic failure. Yet, Grudem would defend him anyways, saying,
I do not think it is right to call him an “evil candidate.” I think rather he is a good candidate with flaws.
Really? He isn’t evil? Jeremiah 17:9, maybe?
Anyways, apparently he’s now come around–and it’s taken a freight train derailment to convince him. Now, on the same blog site, Grudem has officially Canerized his original post praising Trump, and in a seemingly 180-degree turn in which he withdraws his endorsement for the man, now says this:
There is no morally good presidential candidate in this election. I previously called Donald Trump a “good candidate with flaws” and a “flawed candidate” but I now regret that I did not more strongly condemn his moral character.
Hey, thanks for coming around, Wayne. But maybe, just maybe, you should have seen this before. After all, the lesser of two evils is still evil. Even Jerry Garcia knew that. But the simple fact that someone who calls themselves a Christian could unhesitatingly throw support behind a man whose character is that awful is quite telling of one’s discernment–or lack thereof.
A man who has openly stated that he hasn’t asked God for forgiveness because he doesn’t have anything to ask forgiveness for. A man who claims he was led to Christ by one of the foremost false teachers in the world, Paula White. And now, recently released, the audio of a man who unashamedly brags about groping women for sport, and says things so horrible that even the left-wing news outlets won’t repeat what he said.
I mean, come on…who didn’t see this coming?
Apparently, not Wayne Grudem.
The bigger issue at stake here is that these so-called evangelical Christian leaders go out on a limb to throw their support behind this debauched man. What does this say about Christianity to those on the outside watching this charade? “Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals”,” says 1 Corinthians 15:33. You get behind someone as morally corrupt as Donald Trump, and it just might start rubbing off on you. This is far worse than a mere lack of judgment…a mistake to simply be sorry for. This affects the Church’s witness for Christ.
This nonsense goes on in evangelicalism all the time.
[Contributed by Jeff Maples]
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Tuesday, September 20, 2016

CALVARY CHAPEL: ANOTHER WAVE OF THE SPIRIT OR A WAVE OF DECEPTION?~KUHLMAN, FRISBEE, CHUCK SMITH, GIGLIO, TOMLIN: APOSTATES INFLUENCING CHRISTIANS

CALVARY CHAPEL: ANOTHER WAVE OF THE SPIRIT OR A WAVE OF DECEPTION? 
Commentary by Roger Oakland
Understand The Times International: Roger Oakland Ministries
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 There is a lot of talk these days in Christian circles about the great outpouring of the “Holy Spirit” that is just around the corner. This “outpouring” will supposedly bring “another Jesus Movement”. [1] While this would be a wonderful thing if the “spirit” was the Holy Spirit, there is reason to believe we are living at a time when “another spirit” [2] may be the spirit that is in the forefront.
Not long ago, I came across a page on the Internet posting an interview done at the 2016 Calvary Chapel annual pastor’s conference held in Costa Mesa, California. The person doing the interview was Josh Turansky. The two being interviewed were Raul Ries of CC Diamond Bar and his son Ryan Ries of the Whoesoevers, a heavy rock band that promotes satanic symbolism as a means of attracting the youth to biblical Christianity.
      [3]

Ryan is apparently a convert out of drugs and a Satanic worship background and proclaims to be a fully devoted born-again Christian who loves Jesus as his Savior and Lord. [4] He is promoted by both Brian Brodersen and his dad Raul as an evangelist and has been given a platform at CCCM and Calvary Diamond Bar. He is endorsed by Brian and Raul as an evangelist who is called to reach this present generation with the gospel.
In order to set this commentary in a proper context and so that you can see that I am not exaggerating, please watch the following link located at: https://calvarychapel.com/series/ccspc15/view/ccspc15-backstage-josh-turansky-ryan-and-raul-ries/
The previous interview will document all that I have stated. All three participants on the video seem to think that God is about to “pour out” some sort of “spirit” in Calvary Chapel by using former drug addicts and Satanists as agents. As well, they insinuate that the first generation Calvary Chapel pastors who were tutored by Chuck Smith and are now in their ’60s and ’70s will also have a role to play. Apparently, they will receive another “anointing” as “a new Jesus Movement” unfolds and music and postmodernism will join hands to facilitate this latter-day outpouring of the spirit.
While Chuck Smith did not endorse this new and coming movement of the “spirit” before he died, off the record, these men are telling lowly Calvary Chapel pastors who ask questions that they are “out of touch” and “need to get with the program” or “move on.”
The Jesus Movement of the Past
The very fact that I am writing this will bring another onslaught of criticism from my critiques who are “Calvary Chapelites.”  I use the word “Chapelites” in order to describe a certain type of person who is prone to following men and their movements without reasoning scripturally for themselves or seeking after Jesus and His Word. In other words, many have swallowed the “Kool- aid.” They are just unable to think on their own.
I know of only two first generation Calvary Chapel pastors who would agree with this assessment – John Higgins of Tempe, Arizona and Dwight Douville of Appleton, Wisconsin.  John was Chuck Smith’s first associate pastor and saw some of the shortcomings from the beginning. He also knew Lonnie Frisbee personally.  All of the other first generation Calvary Chapel pastors including Greg Laurie, Don McLure, Mike MacIntosh, Raul Ries, Jeff Johnston, Jon Courson, Skip Heitzig, and Bil Galatin all talk about the days when the outpouring of the Spirit was stirred when Lonnie Frisbee was present. Actually, facts show he was empowered by a spirit associated with LSD. [5]
This is not speculation. If you don’t believe me check it out yourself. Or if you want further insight into Calvary Chapel and the connection with Lonnie and other questionable roots, then check out Aime Semple McPherson or see the bridge between Lonnie, Pastor Chuck, and Kathryn Kuhlman.  This is not guilt by association. This was either a total lack of discernment or there was some sort of setup up for the delusion of Calvary Chapel from its very foundation that even influences the present.

There are few who are willing to come out and state the facts regarding the questionable beginnings of Calvary Chapel. Why would this be so? I am challenging all the well-known Calvary Chapel first generation pastors to comment now. Wouldn’t that set the record straight?

The following documentation reveals much about the person of Lonnie Frisbee, his personality, and the “spirit of the person. We read:
Frisbee was a key figure in the Jesus movement and eyewitness accounts of his ministry documented in the 2007 Emmy-nominated film Frisbee: The Life and Death of a Hippie Preacher explain how Frisbee became the charismatic spark igniting the rise of Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel and the Vineyard Movement, two worldwide denominations and among the largest evangelical denominations to emerge in the last thirty years. It was said that he was not one of the hippie preachers, "there was one." The term 'power evangelism' comes from Frisbee's ministry. Some of his harshest critics for heavy use of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit came from the churches he helped found. He also influenced many prophetic evangelists including Jonathan Land, Marc Dupont, Jill Austin and others. Frisbee co-founded the House of Miracles commune and was its main architect, converting many. The House of Miracles grew into a series of nineteen communal houses that later migrated to Oregon to form Shiloh Youth Revival Centers, the largest and one of the longest-lasting of the Jesus People communal groups.

Frisbee functioned both as an evangelical preacher also privately socialized as a gay man before and during his evangelism career. This is held in tension with the fact that he said in interviews that he never believed homosexuality was anything other than a sin in the eyes of God and both denominations prohibited gay sexual behavior. Both churches later disowned him because of his active sexual life, removing him first from leadership positions, then ultimately, firing him. He was shunned and "written out of the official histories." As part of his ostracism from his former churches his work was maligned but he forgave those who tried to discredit him before his death from AIDS in 1993. [6]
What about the fact that Lonnie Frisbee was a youth pastor at Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa that impacted Greg Laurie on the beach in southern California? It is a fact that Lonnie was on LSD.  Did Chuck Smith know this? [7]  What spirit was Greg influenced by when Lonnie laid on hands? Why has this gone undercover? [8]

So Where to from Here
In order to silence the critics and to make sure this commentary has laid out all the facts, I need to bring out all the background to complete the picture.  Lonnie might have been the hook or the bait to bring in the hippies off the beach, but Chuck Smith and his teaching of the Word of God was the substance or the meat that filled the spiritual void hippies and druggies were seeking after. Of course, God can use anything or anyone when revival happens. It is also true that when the true Spirit of God is poured out, Satan is also there with the counterfeit to deceive.
So please do not misunderstand me: I am not saying that Calvary Chapel and the foundation of Calvary Chapel was totally wrong. What I am saying is that two things were happening in parallel and at the same time – the genuine and the opposite of the genuine. What many are still not willing to admit, at least those who experienced this original move of the Holy Spirit, is the fact that Satan was at work then too, as he is now.
Another Wave of the Spirit Now or a Wave of Deception?
I hear a lot of rumblings and propaganda in the media about another “outpouring of the Spirit” that will soon bring “revival” once more to the “mighty Calvary Chapel movement.” Now that Pastor Brian Brodersen has inherited the position of “top dog” at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, the annual Pastor’s Conference is the place where “new distinctives” are brought down.  While such a hierarchy is fervently denied, Pastors such as Dwight Douville recently received orders from headquarters by authorities in Costa Mesa and told him to shut up or ship out because he was airing genuine concerns.
Then there is the talk at large about the great outpouring of unity and ecumenism that will be initiated by the present Pope. Will the hierarchical leaders of the Calvary Chapel movement stand up against this or not?  So far, their silence seems deafening. They all seem to embrace Rick Warren who embraces the Pope. Why is that happening? Are they just deluded or don’t they want to rock the boat because Brian Brodersen is calling for a “New Calvary”?
Many Calvary Chapel pastors are changing their views with regards to the Bible. The following article describes what is happening very clearly. [9] It articulates the philosophy that is being echoed by Brodersen, McLure, Laurie, and others. It seems these men have rolled over a new leaf. They cannot get on the Rick Warren One-World-Religion bandwagon fast enough and all work together for the cause of good. As one observer wrote about the current trends:
Can you believe with us that denominations will unite, that the races could come together, that God could make us one, as the antidote to the terrific division in our day? Could you believe with us for stadium Christianity where signs and wonders are breaking out and mass evangelism explodes across our country- the Third Great Awakening?

So asks N.A.R. affiliated false teacher Lou Engle, founder of the “Asuza Now: The Call” set for April 9th at the LA Coliseum.  “We are believing for an outbreak of God’s glory that will touch the Lord on this day! If we move together, we can see a shift in the body of Christ, unto a day of greater healings and a great awakening for America!”

When Azusa Now calls all denominations, it includes the Church of Rome: “In the invisible realm, intercessors of every stripe— evangelical, charismatic, Pentecostal and Catholic—felt the silver cord tremble in our hands. If prayerless vacuums have been responsible for eventually swallowing every previous revival, then the patient wisdom of God has been made plain. The Holy Spirit has preemptively architectured a massive, global Worship-Prayer-and-Missions movement. Could this sustain the next wave in perpetuity unto His return? Since any true awakening brings enormous pressure and conflict, the next great revival now has a global anchor in prayer.”  (Source: Charisma Magazine) [10]
If you really want to get a glimpse where this “outpouring of the Holy Ghost” is headed read an article from Charisma Magazine called “America Shall Be Saved” by Marcus Yoars.[11] The lineup of evangelists behind this outpouring is mindboggling. Greg Laurie and Franklin Graham are included with Rheinhard Bonnke and others. Who else will join in with an ecumenical hodgepodge of charismatics and non-Charismatics as well as a kickstart from the Roman Catholic Church. Where will this go now that the Reformation has been declared officially over by evangelical Christianity?
 What about the fact that Greg Laurie and Brian Brodersen have gone on record as Lou Engle supporters? Lou Engels is the “pied-piper” of the revival of the Azuza Street phenomenon. If you are not familiar with the so-called Asuza Revival, do some research. This so-called “outpouring” led to the Latter Rain theology that spawned the recent counterfeit revivals such as the Toronto Blessing and the Pensacola River.  Is this what the “New Calvary Movement” is headed for as they are blindly led toward a coming one-world ecumenical hodgepodge of postmodern beliefs? [12]
In my next commentary, I will show how all this ties together with Peter Druckerism and the formation of the church-growth movement that the New Calvary Chapel seems to be endorsing. What spirit will be poured out or will the Bible be thrown out in order to make room for the “spirit”?

[2] II Corinthians 11:3-4
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Louie Giglio: Me and Chris Tomlin (LIFE Today / James Robison)
Published on Nov 2, 2012
The pastor of Passion City Church explains the anointing on Chris Tomlin that led them to minister and work together.
GIGLIO WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK AT OBAMA INAUGURATION BUT BACKED OUT

SEE TOMLIN PERFORMING: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpIcqoKOz2M
SEE WHAT DAVID CLOUD HAS TO SAY ABOUT TOMLINhttp://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/directory_of_contemporary_worship.php
Tomlin, Chris Chris Tomlin is one of the most influential contemporary worship songwriters, having been called “the king of worship music” and “the most-sung music artist in history. He is the author of “Amazing Grace (My Chains Are Gone)”, “We Fall Down,” “Holy Is the Lord,” and “How Great Is Our God.” More than 125 of his songs are being used in churches around the world. Te CCLI (Christian Copyright Licensing International) estimated that between 60,000 and 120,000 churches are singing Tomlin’s songs (“Chris Tomlin, king of the sing-a-long,” CNN’s Belief Blog, March 9, 2013). Howard Rachinski, CEO of CCLI, says that “in the United States on any given Sunday, 20 to 30 million people would be singing Chris Tomlin's songs.” As a result, he is a multi-millionaire, having sold 4.2 million albums, 6 million digital downloads, and receiving millions in royalties via CCLI from churches that use his music. Relevant Magazine said of him, “Whether he’d claim it or not, Chris Tomlin is a prophet. As quickly as he records an album, it becomes the lyrical theology of our generation. His songs are sung in churches around the world, sculpting our doctrine and shaping our ideas about God” (“Chris Tomlin: Paving the Way,” June 24, 2008). This highlights the danger of using contemporary worship in Bible-believing churches. Do such churches really want people like Chris Tomlin to be their prophet and the shaper of their doctrine? Do they want their youth influenced by such men? Tomlin holds the unscriptural ecumenical philosophy that is typical of the CCM crowd. He says, “Conservatives and charismatics can stand in one room, listening to the same music, worshiping the one true God. Music unites” (“Te United State of Worship,” Christianity Today, Aug. 2003). Tere is definitely uniting power in contemporary worship music, but this is an evidence of its apostasy rather than its spiritual authenticity. Bible-believing Baptists and Bible believing fundamentalists don’t want to be united with charismatics and the “broader church,” as it is often called, because we are forbidden to do so. God’s Word teaches us to take doctrine seriously. We are to allow “no other doctrine,” which is the strictest possible stance (1 Timothy 1:3). We are to earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to us in Scripture (Jude 3), and we are to separate from those who teach doctrine that is contrary to the one true faith (Romans 16:17). We are warned that in the last days multitudes of professing Christians will be apostate (2 Timothy 4:3-4). Tey will turn away their ears from the truth and will be turned unto fables, and that certainly applies to the charismatic movement with its gibberish tongues, learnable tongues, spirit slaying, holy laughter, and its blind ecumenical philosophy. And it applies to Rome’s fables such as the papacy, the mass, the saints, and Mary as the Queen of Heaven. Tomlin is a former staff member of Austin Stone Community Church in Texas, which holds the emerging church philosophy. It has an extremely weak doctrinal statement that allows the widest possible ecumenical relationships. Its objective is not just to preach the gospel to lost souls but to “redeem” the city of Austin, which is definitely not what the apostles sought to do in the Roman Empire. Tomlin has a close association with Roman Catholicism. Catholic Matt Maher wrote Tomlin’s hit song “Your Grace Is Enough,” and Maher and Tomlin co-wrote “Crown Him (Mastery)” and “Your Grace Is Enough.” Maher’s goal with his music is to unite “evangelicals” with Roman Catholicism. He says, “The arms of St Peter’s are really big” (“Catholic rocker Matt Maher fnds cross-over appeal among evangelicals,” Religion News Service, May 17, 2013). He says that God has called him “to write music with Protestants and be in ministry with them,” and, “What’s fantastic about it is we’re all Christians from different denominations and we’re learning to understand each other.” Tomlin invited Roman Catholic Audrey Assad to perform on his 2009 Christmas tour and album and sang her song “Winter Snow” as a duet. Tomlin supports the Worship Central training school sponsored by Alpha International, the radically ecumenical charismatic organization that was birthed from the “laughing revival” at Holy Trinity Brompton in London. There is a Roman Catholic arm of Alpha. Tomlin says, “Worship Central is an important and much needed training ground for today’s leaders. When it comes to leading the church, we need each other, and Worship Central is a wonderful place to connect” (www.worshipcentral.org). Chris Tomlin, “the king of worship music,” is using his music to build the one-world “church,” and nothing could be more unscriptural and spiritually dangerous. (See also “Alpha Course” in this directory.)