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Tuesday, February 24, 2015

ALLIANCE THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY, NYACK, NEW YORK GOES DEEP INTO ECSTATIC MYSTICISM AT THE "RESTING PLACE"

STUDENTS GET A BOOST HERE INTO HERESY & APOSTASY, 
CARRYING THE INFECTION INTO THE WORLD;
COULD THIS BE THE FINAL "RESTING PLACE" FOR SOME,
BEFORE THEY GO TO HELL?

"Resting Place is a House of Prayer and Revival Center for the region in Northern New Jersey.  We come together to seek His face, believe for encounter, to see heaven come down to earth, and work to hasten/catalyze the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ."
PENTECOSTAL/WORD OF FAITH/DOMINIONIST 
"HOLY GHOST FILLING STATION" 
FOR NYACK'S SEMINARIANS 
SOUTH OF THE BORDER IN NEW JERSEY
86 Lackawanna Avenue, Woodland Park, NJ 07424
AFFILIATE OF MIKE BICKLE'S "THE INTERNATIONAL HOUSE OF PRAYER"
ALLIANCE THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY, 
NYACK, NEW YORK, 
GOES DEEP INTO MYSTICISM
SEE: http://whputnam00.blogspot.com/2015/02/an-ats-seminarians-ecstatic-encounter.html; republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:

An ATS Seminarian's Ecstatic Encounter at the Resting Place: House of Prayer and Revival Center

An ATS Seminarian's Ecstatic Encounter at the Resting Place: House of Prayer and Revival Center and An ATS Seminarian's Summer Immersion into Shores of Grace: NAR Ministry


In this article you will meet Maddy, a twenty-seven year old ATS seminarian, who genuinely desires a deeper walk with the Lord.  Now, as Maddy goes after these experiences, she describes them in the Nyack "New York's Christian College" official blog called "Life at Nyack."  It is here one can read her astounding story of her encounter with the man with the piercing sword as well as other stories of her spiritual quests.

Maddy Recruits for ATS

Who is Maddy?  Maddy is a third year seminary student who, up to this past summer, was the Admissions Associate for ATS.  In "Why ATS?!", Maddy records just who she is, "I am that enthusiastic face found behind a table, a banner, and a whole lot of ATS and Nyack College material at an event or church.  And I am that woman who prays, encourages, and answers the tough questions and lends a listening ear to ... prospective students of the Alliance Theological Seminary."

Maddy further writes, " ... for me recruiting ... isn't something I do out of obligation.  I recruit for ATS because I strongly believe in everything the ... seminary has to offer."  Maddy continues, "As a student of the Master's of Divinity program God has literally shaken and is in the process of shaking everything that can be shaken within me."  A bit later, she reveals two of the places where this "shaking" has been going on.  She says, "... through lecture after lecture in courses like 'PPTF' and in 'Initiation to Spiritual Formation,' I truly began to understand who it is that God says I am."
http://life.nyack.edu/why-ats/

Maddy Retreats to the Resting Place

In Maddy's blog "Fearless" one finds Maddy at the Resting Place: House of Prayer and Revival Center which she writes is, "... a house of prayer where many Nyack and ATS students frequent."
http://life.nyack.edu/fearless/  And just where is this House of Prayer that Maddy frequents, and what is it all about?

For answers I researched this site: http://www.restingplacehop.com/about.  Below "About" I read: The Resting Place is a House of Prayer and Revival Center in Northern New Jersey "... where we come together to seek His face, believe for encounter, to see heaven come down to earth, and work to hasten/catalyze the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ."  Its Mission:  Its purpose the site says is committed to building a 24/7 prayer room and developing schools of ministry on the place of Night and Day prayer.

Its Friends: Bethel Church, Redding;  Bill Johnson; Bob Jones; Che An; John and Carol Arnott; Kansas City IHOP; Lou Engle; Mike Bickle; Heidi Baker; Rick Joyner; Randy Clark; and other NAR stalwarts.  Its Teaching and Podcast Suggestions: Bethel Church podcast, YWAM Fire and Fragrance DTS Podcasts, Weekend Teaching KC IHOP, IHOP Atlanta Podcast, IHOP Atlanta Awakening, and Personal Spiritual Formation by Ron Walborn.
http://restingplacehop.weebly.com/teaching--podcasts.html

Maddy Tells Her "Pierced by Love" Story

Maddy begins her story by saying she was lying face down on the floor of the Resting Place (And Maddy inserts "lots of Nyack College students and ATS students visit this place.") crying.  She felt as if she wanted to run, sit on God's lap, and hug him but this was impossible.  But, God must have felt the sentiments of her heart, relates Maddy, for she was overwhelmed by a great sense of love and longing.  Maddy writes, "I felt this love wrap around me like a tight, strong-passion-filled love."

And in a mystical St.Teresa-of-Avila-like-moment Maddy sees a man clothed in white garments with a golden belt round His waist, and hanging off his belt was a sword with the words "Love" carved into it.  This man had piercing light emanating from his eyes so Maddy could not look.  Then this man took "His sword," says Maddy, and pierced me with it.  Seconds later, the leader of the Resting Place, Mr. Ali Ferrell, was at her side, saying, "He (Jesus) wants to pierce you with his Holy love ...."
http://life.nyack.edu/pierced-by-love/

Maddy Embraces Dr. Rob Reimer's Challenge

Now, what had Maddy been doing just prior to this ecstatic encounter?  Why Maddy had been reading Dr. Rob Reimer's book: Pathways to the King.  In chapter two "Pursue God," she had read Reimer's instructions on how to initiate intimacy with God.  As a result Maddy declares, "I took on the challenge of pursuing God."  Then as Reimer instructs, she says, "I have been sacrificing: time, money, hanging out, etc. to seek the face of God."  What a travesty that Maddy drank in Reimer's prescription for pursuing God.

For a review of Pathways to the King -where I warn of the deception in this book- please see:
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=15480

Maddy Attends a Holy Spirit Conference

In "Abuser of God's Grace" Maddy tells how many ATS friends made the annual trek to "The Holy Spirit Conference" at Dr. Rob Reimer's CMA's South Shore Community Church in Brockton, Ma.  There she set up her table with materials to sell more potential students on the wonders of ATS.  It was Dr. Martin Sander's night to preach, and the line that stood out to Maddy was: "some of us are abusers of God grace."  Later during prayer a friend said, "God is saying thank you, thank you for acknowledging me." http://life.nyack.edu/abuser-of-gods-grace/

Maddy Goes to NAR Shores of Grace, Brazil

Maddy's entitles her next blog: "Taking a Risk."  In it she records her upcoming summer graduate course, second continent experience (ATS MIA IC),where she will be part of God's rescue mission for the vulnerable at the Randy Clark Global School of Ministry offshoot "Shores of Grace."

Mandy seems to be reechoing the words of Dr. Ron Walborn's Nyack: New York Christian College piece "Alliance Theological Seminary" where the dean quoted John Wimber when he said, "'Faith is spelled R-I-S-K.'"  With God's grace and the Spirit's empowerment, Alliance Theological Seminary will launch hundreds of leaders ... to advance His Kingdom and bring back Christ our Coming King."
http://life.nyack.edu/adventure-into-the-unknown/

Maddy Listens to Mama Heidi Baker

Maddy's piece "Amor Parce com Algo" finds Maddy one week into her Brazilian rescue mission listening to NAR prophetess Heidi Baker and pondering Baker's words, "Love looks like something."  Maddy, at this point, didn't know what to expect, and was filled with uncertainties.  But, during this time she was about to absorb the words from a book she had ordered that her professor- mentor Dr. Rob Reimer recommended.  That book, not the Bible, was going to make a big difference in preparing her for what was to come.http://life.nyack.edu/lovelookslikesomething/

A Look at Maddy's Shores of Grace NAR Ministry Base

As I researched, it was soon apparent that "Shores of Grace" was not a CMA ministry, but a full-blown New Apostolic Reformation base of which Maddy was to be part of for ten weeks. Reading further, according to its leader Nic Billman, SOG had begun under Randy Clark's Global School of Supernatural Ministry.

And much like the Resting Place:HOP, Billman lists various NAR endorsements, heroes, friends, churches, and products. Two of several endorsers were Randy Clark, and Patricia King.  Three of its many heroes include Heidi Baker, Patricia King, and Kevin Prosch. (Now, it made sense why Maddy was listening to Mama Heidi for even the Billman children, their site says, list Heidi as their hero.)  Some friends listed were: "We See Jesus Ministries," Lubbock IHOP, Philadelphia Tabernacle of David, and a host of others. ("We See Jesus Ministries!"-- this made me recall that Maddy had written about her 2013 Christmas vacation ministry in Haiti with NAR's Adam LiVecchi.)
http://shoresofgrace.com/en/about-us/leadership

On top of NAR partners and connections, the Billmans are prolific NAR worship musicians featured on Randy Clark's Global Awakening Book Store saying, "For years, people have talked about the new sounds coming, the reality is that we ARE the new sound that God is releasing on the earth."  A Billman CD is simply entitled, "A Soaking CD;" while another "Anthem CD" is filled with intimate love songs, prophetic degrees, and intercessory warfare.
https://globalawakeningstore.com/Nic-and-Rachael-Billman/

Sad it is that Maddy gains ATS credit by freely serving with these NAR ministries, and that she was allowed to write openly on a blog that is meant to entice new students to Nyack.  And even more troubling is how these experiences have so profoundly influenced Maddy herself as she madly chases God at every turn.

Maddy Experiences a "Dark Night of the Soul"

Maddy started her "Sometimes My Time in Brazil Is Like a Dark Night of the Soul" Life at Nyack blog with a NAR musician Rick Pino quote, "Through the dark night of the soul there is still a bride coming forth."    

Again, here was another- new to me NAR celebrity- who I learned is the founder of Fire Rain Ministries whose music is said to be militant, joyful, intimate, and prophetic. He's cofounder, too, of "Fire on the Altar" a fifty-hour non-stop worship service in the heart of the tabernacle of David  And he also leads the "Heart of David (HOD)" School of ministry.  HOD is a movement of musicianaries  who are raising up day and night worship to transform cities, regions, and nations.  Rick Pino also performs with many other NAR celebs as Cindy Jacob, Lou Engle, Jose Diaz, Matt Gilman, Dutch Sheets, Heidi Baker, and others.  Sadly, Pino is but one more NARite who has influenced Maddy.

In her blog Maddy spells out, how Dr. Rob Reimer's recommendation of the book : Mansions of the Heart  had prepared her for hard times she had at SOG that she dubbed her own "dark night of the soul."

The term "dark night of the soul," is associated with St. John of the Cross, a contemporary of St. Teresa of Avila, who lived during the sixteenth century in Spain.  It is in Ashbrook's book --so filled with its monasteries, monks, and mysticism--that Ashbrook spends considerable time explaining  the necessity of the "dark night of the soul."  And after swallowing this teaching, at the end of her SOG time, Maddy shares, "I see a bride coming forth.  I see the beauty of the kingdom on the inside of me."  http://life.nyack.edu/author/madelyn-badillo/

For my in depth review of Mansions of the Heart please see:
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=16011

Maddy Writes Her last Official "Life at Nyack Blog"

Maddy's final blog "Get Over Your Self" was written after her return from SOG.  In it she shows a picture of the NAR Billmans, and praises their ministry.  Maddy goes on to say, that once again, she has finally surrendered her all, and gotten over herself for good.  Is Maddy sincere?  Yes, I'd say Maddy is totally sincere.  Has Maddy been compromised?   I'd answer emphatically yes!  For she's been influenced  over and over again by the experiences she is having at that very moment.  And no one warns her of the deceptiveness of the contemplative, and NAR movements into which her professors, her mentor, and her seminary has thrust her.
http://life.nyack.edu/get-over-yourself/

How Many More Maddys Are There?

In conclusion, I would ask how many more Maddys are there being driven about by every wind of doctrine that has entered our Christian colleges? How many more Maddys will be seduced by these unscriptural experiences, and upon exiting college or seminary will spread them even farther?  I fear many, much like Maddy, will be led down wrong paths unless passionate believers awaken to stand for truth!  May you and I, as Paul wrote to the Colossians, "...continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel ..." (Colossians 1:23)  And, may we be  fervent defenders of the faith!   

Learn to Discern Granny Verses:  Ephesians 4:14,15

"That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; but speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:"

For More Information:

*January 2015: Volume III: "Wide Is the Gate" DVD -an expose of the NAR Movement by caryltv.com.  http://www.caryltv.com/dvd-previews/222-wide-is-the-gate-volume-iii

*February 6, 2015: Excellent  podcast/transcript on Berean Call: T.A. McMahon interviews Caryl Matrisciana about her "Wide Is the Gate Volume III" DVD.
http://www.thebereancall.org/content/new-agejust-old-news-caryl-matrisciana-part-2

* February 11, 2015:  "An Insider's View of the 2015 Jesus Culture Conference ..."  A description of NAR Music/Speakers.  http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=16933

THE 'MISSIONAL' EMERGING CHURCH: "LOVING THEM STRAIGHT TO HELL"



EMERGING CHURCH: 
"LOVING THEM STRAIGHT TO HELL" 
By Donna Wasson
Republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:

“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus’ sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of the darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.” 2 Corinthians 4:3-6 (KJV)
The vast majority of pastors and elders today are flat out refusing to speak out against the blatant sin present in their congregations. Why? Because it’s not politically correct. Because they don’t want to be viewed as ‘judging.’ They want everyone to feel loved and accepted.  
Truth is, they’re terrified they’ll hurt someone’s feelings, causing some to leave the church. After all, we can’t be too controversial. There are buildings to pay for and salaries and bonuses for the staff to cover. If people leave, they take their money with them, so we can’t go around making people feel bad about themselves!
Many churches today literally hire marketing experts, intent on fomenting a false model of ‘success.’ It’s all predicated on attracting as many people as possible which brings in mo’ money, mo’ money, mo’ money! Money to build bigger buildings and basketball courts and coffee bars and game rooms for the ‘youth.’
Success is no longer measured in souls saved. Are you kidding?! Nope, unless the pastor can pack the auditorium full of pew warmers with fat wallets using his sparkling wit, engaging stories, and encouraging doctrine about how Jesus-loves-you-and-has-a-wonderful-plan-for-your-life, he’s usually considered to be a real loser.
It’s as if all these marketing people tell pastors and board members the same thing: the people want to be entertained! They want loud, upbeat music with eye-catching graphics on the overhead screen, and don’t be afraid to throw in some special effects like lasers or fog! Doesn’t matter what the songs are about. There’s plenty of Emergent Church meaningless nonsense out there to choose from. Just make sure people are energized by the time they sit down.
Get some big-name Christian recording artist to appear in concert, and sell tickets to give the whole thing a feel of professionalism and importance. Maybe even a Christian comedian. Yeah, folks love that stuff! The youth group also needs plenty of options to keep them busy. Dispense with the boring Sunday school lessons of yesterday, or at least keep them to a minimum.
Kids are tired of sitting in class by the time the weekend rolls around. They’re ready to have some fun, so get some pinball machines, some air-hockey tables and maybe even a karaoke machine. Build a full size gym and a coffee bar. Oh, you gotta have a coffee bar along with high tables and stools to hang out on! Serve soda and snacks too. You know how kids are--they’re always hungry!
Now, during the main service, for heaven’s sake, do NOT wear a suit! You’ve got to look approachable and relevant; like you can identify with the people’s struggles, and yet you completely approve of them as they are. Wear high-end jeans and a button-up dress shirt with the sleeves rolled up. Get some Doc Martens or Air Jordan shoes. Very popular with the ‘in’ crowd! Get your teeth whitened too.
Be silly. Don’t be afraid to joke around. Engage your audience. Yeah, you can use the Bible, but most people don’t bring one, so post the scripture above your head on the big screen. However, you really have to use some other translation or paraphrase than that old-fashioned King James Version.
And for God’s sake—oops! Pardon the pun. Whatever you do NEVER, and we mean NEVER talk about the following: the Cross of Jesus, His death and resurrection (unless it’s Easter time) or His blood. Turns people right off! Don’t preach about the need for repentance or salvation or any of that stuff.
Now, the biggest faux pas would be to preach about sin! You don’t want anyone feeling uncomfortable or guilty. And don’t be stupid enough to get into anything political or you’re liable to lose that tax-exempt status.
You want to make those people walk out of that service feeling better than they did when they came in. They’re looking for reassurance that no matter what kind of lifestyle they’re living, God sanctions their behavior and so do you. They must never, EVER get the sense that anyone is judging them.
Drug addicts, gays, couples living together, serial adulterers, alcoholics, marijuana smokers, white-collar thieves, you name it—it doesn’t matter. Just remember that Jesus loves everybody, right? You wanna be successful, pastor? You want a multi-million dollar, mega-church with your face in the newspapers and on billboards? Does your wife expect a mega-church preacher’s lifestyle? Stick with us and do what we say, and you’ll get there within 5 years, tops!
Any of this sound familiar? No matter what the denomination happens to be, this is mostly what our God sees when He looks down at America. If it makes me want to gag, how must He feel? When is the last time YOUR pastor preached against sin? Or the need for repentance and holy, righteous living?
When’s the last time he held an altar call for the lost or needy? Can you remember when he stood before the congregation broken and in tears over the sins of his flock, his country and this world? Has he pleaded for the lost souls in the audience to accept Jesus as their Savior?
Or, is your church a lukewarm, Laodicean country club, beautiful on the outside but full of dead men’s bones? Do the elders anoint the sick with oil and petition God for healing? Do they, along with the pastor, prayerfully, lovingly and privately confront those in the congregation who are living in willful, blatant sin? Have they declared that, until that person turns from their evil ways, they are no longer welcome?
Those actions are terribly uncomfortable and not for the faint of heart. They are the actions of a strong, Godly shepherd who loves and cares for his flock. This kind of shepherd is unfortunately, very rare these days. It seems that most pastors are caught up in the bigger-better rat race and have abandoned their first love.
Are you attending a church where the Word of God is cherry-picked for subjects that aren’t offensive? Does your pastor talk about repenting of sin and striving to be holy as God is holy? Have you ever heard him speak about the reality of hell?
Does he ever marvel over the power and promise of the Cross of Jesus? About the power of His blood? Does he warn you that the Age of Grace is about to conclude, and that Christ is on the verge of snatching His Bride home any second now? Does he explain what it takes to be ready to go, and what will befall those left behind?
If you aren’t hearing these things from your preacher or Bible teachers, you need to get out of that worthless, dead church and seek one that’s alive with the Holy Spirit. Yes, I know that they’re extremely hard to find but they still exist. Pray the Lord will lead you to one and He will guide you.  
It’s true that we need to welcome everyone into the church, no matter how tattered or torn or filthy with sin they happen to be. But, we don’t leave them that way just because we don’t want to offend them or hurt their feelings! We’re called to point them to the Cross so they can be made into a new creature in Christ. A mature believer needs to disciple them and hold them accountable in their walk.
The prevailing attitude within the Christian community today is that confronting sin is not ‘loving.’ We shouldn’t ‘judge’ because Jesus loved everyone. Where are you people getting this?! What a load of unmitigated garbage! Refusing to gently confront sin in a person’s life and pointing them to the Savior, is the single most hateful, vile thing you could ever do to another human being!
We don’t have much time left to spread the good news of the Gospel. For heaven’s sake, don’t even bother being associated with a wuss church that ‘loves’ people straight to hell.
Maranatha!

Monday, February 23, 2015

ALABAMA GOVERNOR BENTLEY WILL OBEY FEDERAL "GAY MARRIAGE" RULING OVER GOD'S LAW~BETRAYS CHRIST FOR SAKE OF NOT WANTING THE STATE "PORTRAYED IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT"

WILLING TO COMPROMISE HIS ALLEGIANCE 
TO JESUS CHRIST
FOR APPEARANCE SAKE BEFORE THE WORLD
THE "NEGATIVE LIGHT" OF APPEARING TO BE 
IN FAVOR OF BIBLICAL MARRIAGE
GOVERNOR'S PRESS SECRETARY: 
jennifer.ardis@governor.alabama.gov
AFFILIATE OF THE APOSTATE/WORLDLY 
SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION; 
WELCOMING HOME OF FREEMASONS; 
IN AGREEMENT WITH RUSSELL MOORE
ALABAMA'S "CHRISTIAN" GOVERNOR PLACES THE STATE AS A HIGHER POWER THAN GOD; 
A REPLAY OF THE NAZI CHURCHES
DEUTERONOMY 16:19-"You shall not pervert justice. You shall not show partiality, and you shall not accept a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and subverts the cause of the righteous.
JAMES 2:9-"But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors.
DANIEL 7:27-"And the kingdom and the dominion and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; his kingdom shall be an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.’
JOHN 12:43-"for they loved the approval of men rather than the approval of God.
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Alabama’s Sunday School Teacher Governor: I Will Obey ‘Gay Marriage’ Ruling Over God’s Law

SEE: http://the-trumpet-online.com/alabamas-sunday-school-teacher-governor-will-obey-gay-marriage-ruling-gods-law/; republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes; original from Christiannews.net:

MONTGOMERY, Ala. – The governor of Alabama, who also serves as a deacon and Sunday school teacher at First Baptist Church Tuscaloosa, says that he will obey the recent federal court ruling striking down the state’s Sanctity of Marriage Act as being unconstitutional.
Gov. Robert Bentley told Politico on Friday while attending a meeting of the National Governor’s Association in Washington, D.C. that he believes he must obey the courts even if he disagrees with them personally.
“[I would] never do anything to disobey a federal court ruling,” he told the outlet when asked about last month’s same-sex “marriage” decision, which Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore has called on others to fight.
“We are a nation under laws,” Bentley said. “We may not always agree with them, but we obey them.”
The governor, who teaches at First Baptist Church Tuscaloosa under the leadership of Gil McKee, additionally told AlabamaNews that while he and Moore have the same convictions, they differ when it comes to compliance with federal court rulings. He said that he would not punish probate judges who decided to issue same-sex “marriage” licenses, nor those who have refused to do so, but will wait to hear from the U.S. Supreme Court on the issue.
“I don’t want Alabama portrayed in a negative light because when it’s portrayed in a negative light, it doesn’t help me to recruit jobs in Alabama,” he said. “So I’m hurting families when I can’t help people get a job in this state.”
“I want to do everything I can to make sure the people across the country, the people across the world, realize that Alabama is a different state,” Bentley stated. “And I will obey the law and that’s what I’m going to do.”
But Matt Trewhella, pastor of Mercy Seat Christian Church in Milwaukee, Wisc. and author of “The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate,” told Christian News Network that Christians should never place man’s decrees above God’s law.
“What must be realized is that the rule of law in Western civilization was built upon the moral law of God as revealed in Scripture,” he said. “The reason homosexuality was illegal throughout Western civilization for nearly 1,500 years was precisely because the moral law of God declared it a crime.”
“So, when you now have law made by men that is contradicting that, men should not recognize it as true law, and men in positions of authority like Bentley should actually oppose such a court ruling,” Trewhella explained.
He said that it is hypocritical for Christians to place “the law of the land” over God, whether it be court opinions affirming homosexuality or the slaughter of millions of innocent babies through abortion.
“This is a huge problem that Christians have in America as they separate their Christianity from their politics,” the pastor and author stated. “It makes it convenient for them to betray Christ, even in office.”
Trewhella said that if Bentley was handling the matter as a biblical Christian, he would join Moore in defending Alabama’s Constitution and resist the ruling.
“[H]e should be doing exactly what Judge Moore is saying, and that is [declaring] that this federal court ruling is immoral and unjust, and we’re not going to recognize it,” he outlined. “He should be defending Alabama’s Constitution from federal tyranny.”
During an interview earlier this month on CNN, Moore pinned down interviewer Chris Cuomo as to whether or not he would have obeyed the 1896 Supreme Court ruling in favor of racial segregation.
“Would you have followed the order in Dred Scott saying that black people were property? Or would you have followed the order in Plessy versus Ferguson that says separate but equal was the policy of the United States?” Moore asked.
“It’s not my place to answer,” Cuomo replied.
“Well, I’m asking you if you were the Chief Justice of Alabama, would you follow Plessy versus Ferguson and Dred Scott when they were issued. Yes or no?” Moore repeated.
“You follow the law of the land,” Cuomo said. “That is what our nation is based on.”
Martin Luther King, Jr., in his well-known “Letter from Birmingham Jail,” written in Alabama during a time when segregation was considered the law, said that while some may question disobedience to civil law, a law is not a law if it violates the law of God.
“One may well ask, ‘How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?’ The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust,” he explained. “I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”
“How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. An unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law,” King continued. “Of course, there is nothing new about this kind of civil disobedience. It was evidenced sublimely in the refusal of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego to obey the laws of Nebuchadnezzar, on the ground that a higher moral law was at stake. It was practiced superbly by the early Christians, who were willing to face hungry lions and the excruciating pain of chopping blocks rather than submit to certain unjust laws of the Roman Empire.”
Christian News Network attempted to reach First Baptist Church Tuscaloosa, but no one could be reached for comment.

Sunday, February 22, 2015

SBC ETHICIST RUSSELL MOORE WOULD HAVE ALABAMA JUDGES BE OBEDIENT SLAVES OF FEDERAL SAME SEX MARRIAGE RULING PER ROMANS 13 MISINTERPRETATION & SET ASIDE STATE LAW, NATURAL LAW & CONSCIENCES



RUSSELL MOORE:
A FOOL THINKING HE'S DOING
THE WORK OF GOD BECOMES INSTEAD A
"TOOL IN THE HANDS OF SATAN";
CALLS FOR JUDGES' RESIGNATIONS;
TO LEAVE THE BATTLE FOR TRUTH
WOULD HAVE ALL CHRISTIANS
BOW TO EVIL LAW UNDER
ROMANS 13 
MISAPPLIED;
DENIES STATES RIGHTS OF ALABAMA

SOUTHERN BAPTIST "ETHICIST"
RUSSELL MOORE LECTURES JUDGE ROY MOORE OF ALABAMA & ALL ALABAMA JUDGES TO OBEY FEDERAL JUDGE RULING AND PERFORM SAME SEX MARRIAGES, TO SET ASIDE THEIR CONSCIENCES, THE NATURAL LAW, AND STATE LAW
EXCERPTS:
But Moore said that until the high court rules on the matter, last month’s federal court ruling striking down Alabama’s Sanctity of Marriage Amendment must be followed. “As citizens and as Christians, our response should be one of both conviction and of respect for the rule of law,” he remarked. “Our system of government does not allow a state to defy the law of the land.”
“In a Christian ethic, there is a time for civil disobedience in cases of unjust laws,” Moore continued. “That’s why, for instance, Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr. went to jail. In the case of judges and state Supreme Court justices, though, civil disobedience, even when necessary, cannot happen in their roles as agents of the state.”
He then explained his belief that if one does not wish to follow the law, then they should resign from their position.
“Given the high bar required for civil disobedience, the way to address same-sex marriage in this circumstance is not by defying the rule of law, but by making our case before the legitimate authorities,” Moore stated. “If we lose, our responsibility is to advocate as citizens for our views, even if that project is (as in the case of the pro-life movement) a long-term project, while we work for our constitutional guarantees of freedom of conscience and religious liberty.”
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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (Christian Examiner) -- The head of the Southern Baptist Convention's public policy arm says Alabama judges who in good conscience cannot issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, should resign instead of fighting the law while in office.
Russell D. Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission and no relation to Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, was quoted in the Baptist Press, the SBC's official news service, as being in conflict with approximately 44 of 67 Alabama probate judges who have refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. These jurists are acting in defiance of an order by U.S. District Court Judge Callie Granade who invalidated an Alabama constitutional amendment, passed by 81 percent of voters, defining marriage in the state as only between one man and one woman.
The issue arose in large part because Judge Roy Moore issued guidance to state judges Sunday night, Feb. 8, ahead of the expiration of a 14-day stay blocking same-sex marriage in Alabama. Citing the Alabama Constitution as appointing him, as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, the administrative head of the state judicial system, he quoted Alabama law authorizing him to "take affirmative and appropriate action to correct or alleviate any condition or situation adversely affecting the administration of justice within the state."
He then ordered "no Probate Judge of the State of Alabama nor any agent or employee of any Alabama Probate Judge shall issue or recognize a marriage license that is inconsistent" with the Alabama Constitution of state law.
“On principle I did the right thing. But it's not about the Ten Commandments, and it's not about my feelings, it's about the law. And my law, Alabama law, states that I'm the chief administrative officer of the judicial system and I must act when the jurisdiction of the probate court is interfered with by one lone judge who has no power or authority to tell them how to interpret the federal Constitution.”
- Chief Justice Roy Moore












RUSSELL MOORE
Russell Moore, a national official charged with representing Southern Baptists' beliefs with regard to culture and public policy, told Baptist Press any judge who "could not discharge the duties of his office required by law" because of objections of conscience "would need to resign and protest it as a citizen."
He said that there is a role for civil disobedience, but not for "judges and state Supreme Court justices ... in their roles as agents of the state."
Russell Moore's dissent with some Alabama judges was published the same day Judge Roy Moore, also a Southern Baptist, said just the opposite in a heated debate with CNN's Chris Cuomo.
ROY MOORE & CNN
Cuomo, son of liberal icon Mario Cuomo, recently deceased former New York governor, argued Alabama Chief Justice Moore "did not have to do this" and accused the judge of "acting on principle" instead of the rule of law in this instance as he did in another case in which Moore fought a federal judge's order and kept a stone monument of the Ten Commandments in the Alabama judicial building -- an action which led to his removal from office.
Cuomo raised the specter of segregation "in states like yours" which district courts ended by making rulings states had to follow.
But Roy Moore retorted that the issue is not discrimination but "about sexual preference overcoming an institution which has existed in our state—in our United States—for centuries. And I think it's wrong."
Cuomo asked Judge Moore what he would do if the Supreme Court decided in favor of same-sex marriage.
The judge rejoined Cuomo by asking him if he would have followed the order in Dred Scott "that said black people are property" and Plessy vs. Ferguson "which said that separate but equal is the policy of the United States."
"Can you answer that please?" he asked.
Cuomo dodged the question.
BIBLICAL GUIDANCE
Russell Moore cited familiar biblical passages to justify his position that Chief Justice Roy Moore and the defiant probate judges are wrong.
"As citizens and as Christians, our response should be one of both conviction and of respect for the rule of law (1 Peter 2:13; Romans 13). Our system of government does not allow a state to defy the law of the land," Russell Moore wrote, according to Baptist Press.
"Religious freedom and conscience objections must be balanced with a state's obligation to discharge the law," the Southern Baptists' ethicist said.
NEW YORK TIMES
But the New York Times' Emily Bazelon agreed with Chief Justice Roy Moore about the "process" of the law in this case, calling it "peculiar."
"District-court rulings, even if they're about important matters of policy, usually affect only the people involved in the case in question," she wrote. "They don't typically make law for an entire state; that responsibility falls to a state's highest court, or a federal appeals court -- in this case the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit -- or eventually the Supreme Court, which makes law for the country."
"But in the case of Granade's ruling on the gay-marriage ban, both the federal appeals court and the Supreme Court have stood aside," the NYT article continued, "leaving Granade in the highly unusual position of remaking law and policy for the entire state of Alabama."
"[Judge] Moore is telling state judges not to follow Granade's order. To contest the statewide application of her ruling is a far more legitimate form of fist-shaking by a state official than contesting an order from a higher federal court would be," Bazelon concluded.
OTHER VIEWS OF SCRIPTURE
Others have a different take than Russell Moore on the biblical responsibilities of Christian judges facing objections of conscience.
Southern Baptist Rick Burgess, an overwhelmingly popular Christian radio personality throughout the South and an Alabama native, sent a strongly worded tweet to encourage probate judges who "claim to follow Christ" to "make a stand and refuse to sign same-sex marriage licenses."
He followed up his social media message with a statement to AL.com that he felt Christian judges are "in a Daniel moment."
"Daniel followed the law of the land until it asked him to go against God and the Bible tells us that Daniel had resolved in his heart that he would not worship the king, even though it was the law," he said. "If you are a Christian and a probate judge do you condone a version of marriage that goes against God even though it's the current law of the land? Martin Luther King Jr. in his letter from a Birmingham jail covered this when explaining to fellow pastors why he would continue to break 'unjust' laws."
He added that Christians had an equal right to raise their families in a society reflecting their convictions.
"It's time to fight," he said.
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The Hiding Place-Decision About Obeying a Higher Law
PASTOR:"You Can't Keep The (Jewish) Baby; 
It's Against the (NAZI) Law":


SAVING JEWS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ILLEGAL (AGAINST THE "GOD ORDAINED" AUTHORITIES):
Corrie Ten Boom Her testimony in her own words Full Length:
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Cornelia "Corrie" ten Boom (April 15, 1892 -- April 15, 1983) was a Dutch Christian Holocaust survivor who helped many Jews escape the Nazis during World War II.

n May 1942, a well-dressed woman came to the Ten Boom door with a suitcase in hand. She told the Ten Booms that she was a Jew and that her husband had been arrested several months before, and her son had gone into hiding. Occupation authorities had recently visited her, and she was too fearful to return home. After hearing about how the Ten Booms had helped their Jewish neighbors, the Weils (while this is the name given in her book, the actual name of the furrier across the street was N Weill & zoon), she asked if she might stay with them, and Corrie ten Boom's father readily agreed. A devoted reader of the Old Testament, Casper ten Boom believed Jews were indeed "the chosen," and told the woman, "In this household, God's people are always welcome."
Thus began "the hiding place", or "de schuilplaats", as it was known in Dutch (also known as "de Béjé", pronounced in Dutch as 'bayay', an abbreviation of the name of the street the house was in, the Barteljorisstraat). Ten Boom and her sister began taking in refugees, some of whom were Jews, others members of the resistance movement sought by the Gestapo and its Dutch counterpart. There were several extra rooms in their house, but food was scarce due to wartime shortages. Every non-Jewish Dutch person had received a ration card with which they could procure weekly coupons to buy food.
Corrie knew many in Haarlem, thanks to her charitable work, and remembered a couple who had a developmentally disabled daughter. For about twenty years, Corrie Ten Boom had run a special church service program for such children, and knew the family. The father was a civil servant who was by then in charge of the local ration-card office. She went to his house unannounced one evening, and he seemed to know why. When he asked how many ration cards she needed, "I opened my mouth to say, 'Five,'" Ten Boom wrote in The Hiding Place. "But the number that unexpectedly and astonishingly came out instead was: 'One hundred.'"

Because of the number of people using their house as a safe place from the Nazis, the Ten Booms were encouraged to build a secret room in case a raid took place. After inspection, it was decided that the room would be built in Corrie's bedroom, as it was in the highest part of the house, which gave people who were trying to hide the most time to avoid detection (as a search would start on the ground floor). The hidden room was behind a false wall, designed by a member of the Dutch resistance. They were able to sneak bricks and other building supplies into the house by hiding them in briefcases and rolled up newspapers. When finished, the secret room was about 30 inches deep; the size of a medium wardrobe. A ventilation system allowed for breathing. To enter the secret room, a person would have to open a sliding panel in a cupboard, and crawl in on their hands and knees. In addition, an electronic buzzer was installed to give the house's residents warning of a raid. When the Nazis raided the Ten Boom house in 1944, six people used the hiding place to escape detection.

The Germans arrested the entire Ten Boom family on February 28, 1944 at around 12:30 with the help of a Dutch informant. They were sent first to Scheveningen prison (where her father died ten days after his capture). Corrie's sister Nollie, brother Willem, and nephew Peter were all released. Later, Corrie and Betsie were sent to the Vught political concentration camp (both in the Netherlands), and finally to the notorious Ravensbrück concentration camp in Germany on December 16, 1944, where Corrie's sister Betsie died. Before she died she told Corrie, "There is no pit so deep that God's love is not deeper still." Corrie was released on New Year's Eve of December 1944.[2] In the movie The Hiding Place, Ten Boom narrates the section on her release from camp, saying that she later learned that her release had been a clerical error. The women prisoners her age in the camp were killed the week following her release. She said, "God does not have problems. Only plans."


Ravensbrück Concentration Camp:
Published on Oct 29, 2013
Ravensbrück was a women's concentration camp during World War II, located in northern Germany, 90 km north of Berlin at a site near the village of Ravensbrück (part of Fürstenberg/Havel).
Construction of the camp began in November 1938 by SS leader Heinrich Himmler and was unusual in that it was a camp primarily for women and children. The camp opened in May 1939. In the spring of 1941, the SS authorities established a small men's camp adjacent to the main camp. Between 1939 and 1945, over 130,000 female prisoners passed through the Ravensbrück camp system; around 40,000 were Polish and 26,000 were Jewish. Between 15,000 and 32,000 of the total survived. Although the inmates came from every country in German-occupied Europe, the largest single national group incarcerated in the camp consisted of Polish women.
Siemens & Halske employed many of the slave labor prisoners.

The first prisoners at Ravensbrück were approximately 900 women. The SS had transferred these prisoners from the Lichtenburg women's concentration camp in Saxony in May 1939. By the end of 1942, the inmate population of Ravensbrück had grown to about 10,000.
There were children in the camp as well. At first, they arrived with mothers who were Gypsies or Jews incarcerated in the camp or were born to imprisoned women. There were few of them at the time. There were a few Czech children from Lidice in July 1942. Later the children in the camp represented almost all nations of Europe occupied by Germany. Between April and October 1944 their number increased considerably, consisting of two groups. One group was composed of Roma children with their mothers or sisters brought into the camp after the Roma camp in Auschwitz-Birkenau was closed. The other group included mostly children who were brought with Polish mothers sent to Ravensbrück after the collapse of the Warsaw Uprising of 1944. With a few exceptions all these children died of starvation. Ravensbrück had 70 sub-camps used for slave labour that were spread across an area from the Baltic Sea to Bavaria.
Among the thousands executed by the Germans at Ravensbrück were four female members of the British World War II organization Special Operations Executive: Denise Bloch, Cecily Lefort, Lilian Rolfe and Violette Szabo. Other victims included the Roman Catholic nun Élise Rivet, Elisabeth de Rothschild (the only member of the Rothschild family to die in the Holocaust), Russian Orthodox nun St. Maria Skobtsova, the 25-year-old French Princess Anne de Bauffremont-Courtenay and Olga Benário, wife of the Brazilian Communist leader Luís Carlos Prestes. The largest group of executed women at the Ravensbrück camp was composed of 200 young Polish patriots who were members of the Home Army.
Among the survivors of the Ravensbrück camp was Christian author and speaker Corrie ten Boom. Corrie ten Boom and her family were arrested by the Nazis for harbouring Jews in their home in Haarlem, the Netherlands. The ordeal of Corrie and her sister Betsie ten Boom in the camp is documented in her book The Hiding Place which was eventually produced as a motion picture. Countess Karolina Lanckoronska, a Polish art historian and author of Michelangelo in Ravensbruck also was imprisoned in the camp from 1943--1945. Eileen Nearne, a member of the Special Operations Executive was a prisoner in 1944 before being transferred to another work camp and escaping. Additional Ravensbruck survivors include Gemma LaGuardia Gluck - who wrote a memoir about her experiences at the camp and afterward - her daughter Yolande, and Yolande's baby son.
During her imprisonment in Ravensbrück, the anthropologist and member of the French resistance Germaine Tillion secretly wrote a comic operetta about camp life titled Le Verfügbar aux Enfers. In 1975, she published a comprehensive study of the camp, Ravensbruck: An eyewitness account of a women's concentration camp.
In 1945, just prior to liberation, the poet, playwright and author of The Green Goos, Konstanty Ildefons Galczynski, managed to save one of the Ravensbruck inmates from certain death. Her name was Lucyna Wolanowska. They began living together, and in January 1946 their son was born, also named Konstanty Ildefons Gałczyński. Later that same year Lucyana Wolanowska and her son emigrated to Australia.

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Corrie Ten Boom "Return to the Hiding Place" Trailer
For New Movie 
Published on Dec 5, 2014
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World War II relocation internment in "War Relocation Camps" of over 110,000 people of Japanese heritage who lived on the Pacific coast of the United States. The USA government ordered the internment in 1942, shortly after Imperial Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. The internment of Japanese Americans was applied unequally as a geographic matter: all who lived on the West Coast were interned, while in Hawaii, where 150,000-plus Japanese Americans comprised over one-third of the population. Sixty-two percent of the internees were American citizens

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Corrie ten Boom and her sister Betsie were sent to Ravensbruck concentration camp, where Betsie died in the concentration camp.

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Corrie Ten Boom The Hiding Place is a true story it really happened Cornelia "Corrie" ten Boom Amsterdam, The Netherlands Corrie was a Dutch Christian, who with her father and other family members helped many Jews escape the Nazi Holocaust during World War II. Her family was arrested due to an informant in 1944, and her father died 10 days later at Scheveningen prison.

Corrie also aided Holocaust survivors in the Netherlands. In 1940, the Nazis invaded the Netherlands. In 1942, Corrie and her family had become very active in the Dutch underground, hiding refugees. They rescued many Jews from the Nazi SS. Corrie and sister Betsie began taking in refugees, some of whom were Jews

Corrie was released from Ravensbruck concentration camp on December 28, 1944. One of Corrie and Betsie's favorite sayings was, "There is no pit so deep that God is not
deeper still.

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