GESTAPO POLICE STATE NJ ATTEMPT TO CONFISCATE RESIDENT'S GUNS WITHOUT A WARRANT OR JUSTIFIABLE/PROBABLE CAUSE~ONLY BASED ON SNITCHERS AS IN NAZI GERMANY

NAZI GERMANY REVISITED IN NEW JERSEY

“In the Garden State, the usual approach is to confiscate first and ask questions later, and victims of this approach often don't know their rights. "

GESTAPO POLICE STATE NJ ATTEMPT TO CONFISCATE RESIDENT'S GUNS WITHOUT A WARRANT OR JUSTIFIABLE/PROBABLE CAUSE~ONLY BASED ON SNITCHERS 

AS IN NAZI GERMANY

SCHOOL STUDENTS' CONVERSATION 

ABOUT POOR SCHOOL SECURITY 

OVERHEARD & REPORTED
FATHER & MOTHER BULLIED & INTIMIDATED BY POLICE
"SWAT TEAM" AT 10 P.M.

SEE: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/07/nj-state-police-attempt-to-confiscate-resident-guns-without-a-warrant/#axzz5L2UumFIa;

republished below in full unedited for informational, educational and research purposes:

Millstone Township, New Jersey – -(Ammoland.com)- An Army veteran father says State Police tried to confiscate his firearms without a court order or warrant just because his son was overheard discussing school shooting news with a classmate.

Police said their visit was sparked by a conversation that Leonard Cottrell Jr.'s 13-year-old son had had with another student at the school. Cottrell said he was told his son and the other student were discussing security being lax and what they would have to do to escape a school shooting at Millstone Middle School.

The conversation was overheard by another student, who went home and told his parents, and his mother panicked. The mom then contacted the school, which contacted the State Police, according to Cottrell.

The visit from the troopers came around 10 p.m. on June 14, 2018, Cottrell said, a day after Gov. Phil Murphy signed several gun enforcement bills into law.

After several hours, Cottrell said police agreed not to take the guns but to allow him to move them to another location while the investigation continued.


“They had admitted several times that my son made no threat to himself or other students or the school or anything like that,” he said.


Cottrell said he made it very clear to the police that he was “not going to willingly give up my constitutional rights where there's no justifiable cause, no warrants, no nothing.”

The troopers searched his son's room and found nothing, Cottrell said.


“To appease everybody, I had my firearms stored someplace else,” he said. “That way, during the course of the investigation, my son doesn't have access to them and it's on neutral ground and everything and everybody's happy.”


Major Brian Polite, a spokesperson for the New Jersey State Police, stated that the troopers that conducted the investigation determined there was no need for the weapons to be seized. He also said he could not comment on whether the incident was related to the new gun laws.


“In the Garden State, the usual approach is to confiscate first and ask questions later, and victims of this approach often don't know their rights.  ‎In this case, the victim pushed back and confiscation was avoided — but the circumstances surrounding the incident are outrageous. A student expressing concern over lack of security is not a reason to send police to the student's home — but it might be a reason to send police to the school to keep students and teachers safe” said Scott L. Bach, executive director of the Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs and a member of the NRA board of directors.


Cottrell said if the school had contacted him and talked about what had happened instead of going to the police first, “it would have been worked out right then and there.” He said he also would have understood if he'd gotten a call from the State Police to learn more, instead of the late night visit to his home.



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New Jersey Gun ‘Appeasement’ Still Results in 

Citizen Disarmament

BY DAVID CODREA

SEE: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/07/new-jersey-gun-appeasement-still-results-in-citizen-disarmament/#axzz5LEUt5pNE; 
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If a confiscation order had gone out, how many of these New Jersey LEOs do you think would refuse to carry them out? (New Jersey State Police/Facebook profile photo)

USA – -(Ammoland.com)- “To appease everybody, I had my firearms stored someplace else,” New Jersey gun owner and Army veteran Leonard Cottrell Jr. told New Jersey 101.5 after a June 14 visit from State Police,. “That way, during the course of the investigation, my son doesn't have access to them and it's on neutral ground and everything and everybody's happy.”

Cottrell was recalling state troopers showing up at his door to confiscate firearms after his 13-year-old son was overheard discussing lax school safety with a friend.

Indoctrinated by a pervasive snitch culture — one that never seems to deter the blatantly obvious demonic nutjobs — the eavesdropping student told his parents, who told school administrators, who in turn called the cops. (Note “If you see something, say something” carries risks of its own – if you report the wrong person, you could end up smeared as a “hater.”)


“Cottrell said he made it very clear to the police that he was ‘not going to willingly give up my constitutional rights where there's no justifiable cause, no warrants, no nothing,’” the report continued. Despite that, his home is now a “gun free zone” and that has been publicized by the media. He has, in fact, willingly ceded those rights, and by his own words in order to make authorities “happy.”


Before judging him for that, consider the environment that is New Jersey. Then consider the overwhelming force the state can bring to bear, and its predisposition to using it, especially if it’s to enforce citizen disarmament. It’s easy to anonymously declare “Molon Labe” on the internet. In meatspace, resistance is more effective when the aggressor doesn’t get to dictate the time and place, especially if that place is your home and you have family inside.


“[T]he troopers conducted an investigation and determined there was no need for the weapons to be seized,” New Jersey State Police spokesman Major Brian Polite stated. It sounds like Cottrell moved the guns offsite as a preemptive protective measure to preclude an escalation should the cops change their minds. But I doubt “everybody’s happy.”


Cottrell can’t be happy, not really. And neither is the State of New Jersey, which based on its actions wants everybody’s guns – at least those in private hands. They've made it clear they’ll keep moving toward that goal, one Intolerable Act infringement at a time.
Leonard Cottrell Jr., 40, of Millstone, NJ. (Courtesy of Leonard Cottrell)

This is the reason I support Oath Keepers. We are fast approaching a time where, depending on the state you live in, confiscation orders are increasingly likely. While many in “law enforcement” will no doubt obey such orders, it is to our advantage to encourage those who will not, and to get others thinking about the oath they took when they became sworn officers, and what that really requires of them.

Appeasing gun-grabbers, generally couched as “compromise,” is impossible. It’s like throwing a scrap of flesh to a circling pack of jackals and expecting them to be sated and leave you alone — instead of sensing opportunity and fear, and moving in closer.

That’s an analogy I wish more of our “gun rights leaders” in state and national groups would act like they understand.


About David Codrea:
David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating / defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.
In addition to being a field editor/columnist at GUNS Magazine and associate editor for Oath Keepers, he blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.