Southern Baptist Convention Allowing Women in the Pulpits?
BY JEFF MAPLES
SEE: http://pulpitandpen.org/2016/08/24/southern-baptist-convention-allowing-women-in-the-pulpits/; republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in yall the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. – 1 Corinthians 14:33-35
I’m not sure what’s so difficult to understand about this passage. I didn’t write it. The Apostle Paul wrote it. Historically, Southern Baptists believe that all Scripture is God-breathed (2 Tim 3:16)–that is, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. So if you have a problem with it, take it up with your Creator.
Though the Baptist Faith & Message, a statement of faith that Southern Baptists have historically agreed upon, affirms the biblical role of men and women in the church, it is non-binding on the individual churches. In fact, the only requirement to be recognized as a Southern Baptist is to send them a few bucks every now and then.
Yet, the convention recently booted a Southern Baptist church for officiating a gay “wedding.” Apparently, they found this sinful enough to take action, even though there is no written, binding prohibition against it. So the convention CAN remove your church if they find your church operating in an unbiblical manner. But how much money are they losing by giving the boot to a small church? The SBC can save face, while sacrificing nothing, by removing a small congregation who contributes a relatively small amount to the organization.
Enter Elevation Church.
Elevation Church, mislead by Steven Furtick, is a multisite megachurch with thousands of members. Elevation Church rakes in millions. Elevation Church is a major player on both the Southern Baptist Cooperative Program, and the NC Baptist Association’s bottom line.
We can overlook a little bit of sin…After all, it’s not as bad as officiating a gay wedding, right?
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. – 1 Tim 2:12 (Emphasis mine)
Holly Furtick, Steven’s wife, with her histrionic performance of pastoral theatrics this past weekend, took to the pulpit–wait, there is no pulpit–the stage to teach twist Scripture, and lead people to a rightful misunderstanding of God’s Word. I suppose she gets a pass, though, since they don’t actually qualify as a church.
I suppose she gets a pass, though, since they don’t actually qualify as a church. But hey, as long as they’re sending in the dough, and lining the pockets of the convention elites, we can turn a blind eye to a little leaven–after all, the good outweighs the bad.
But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. – Revelation 2:20
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WOMEN PASTORS, PRISCILLA SHIRER, AND THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION
BY KEN SILVA; SEE: http://apprising.org/2012/02/27/women-pastors-priscilla-shirer-and-the-southern-baptist-convention/; republished below in full unedited for informational, educational, and research purposes:
Apprising Ministries reminds you that while the issue of women being ordained elders and pastors has been debated within some of evangelicalism, up until now it’s been essentially contained within the more charismatic and Pentecostal fringes.
The more mainstream denominations, e.g. the Southern Baptist Convention, have for the most part still maintained the proper Biblical position that women cannot be ordained as elders.
However, as one whose work in the Lord is to monitor Intel along the Internet Front and assess trends within the larger visible church, it’s my considered opinion that this will soon be changing.
You need to know that placing women in the pastorate is now going to be a real push by those falling victim to the delusion of Rodney King theology passing as Christian doctrine in too much of the church visible.
In fact, this issue is closer to the nearly anything goes SBC than you may realize. For example, in
Emerging Ecumenical Evangelephants And The Word Faith Movement I reminded you that Elevation Church of prophet-pastor Steven Furtick was a 2007 plant of the North Carolina Baptists, the NC state convention for the Southern Baptist Convention:
Emerging Ecumenical Evangelephants And The Word Faith Movement I reminded you that Elevation Church of prophet-pastor Steven Furtick was a 2007 plant of the North Carolina Baptists, the NC state convention for the Southern Baptist Convention:
You might wonder what this has to do with the subject of women pastors. Well, I showed you recently that Word Faith Pastrix Christine Caine Preaches Sunday Morning sermon For Steven Furtick. Caine is a pastrix at the nefarious Word Faith Hillsong Church in Australia where pastor Brian and pastrix Bobbie are the “senior pastors.”
Quite obviously, given his growing ties with the Word Faith movement in general and with Hillsong in particular, Steven Furtick has no problem with women in the unbiblical role as pastor. Apparently, neither does Priscilla Shirer, who is a good friend of wildly popular SBC Bible teacher Beth Moore and featured here at Lifeway:
If you didn’t know, Lifeway is the publishing arm of the SBC. I think it’s also interesting to note here that Priscilla Shirer’s bio tells us her mentor is motivational speaker Zig Ziglar:
You’ll probably remember that Shirer appeared with her friend Beth Moore in the infamous Be Still DVD promoting the corrupt Contemplative Spirituality/Mysticism (CSM) of Foster-Willardism. We do have real reason to be concerned about Shirer’s discernment when we also consider Priscilla Shirer Points Us To Richard Rohr.
She does so while she was “anxious to connect you with some folks who I think you’ll be so blessed by.” One of them was Jan Johnson, whom Shirer tells us about in her July 2010 post Wisbits. Notice Shirer informs us in language common to Word Faith theology that “Ms. Jan spoke wisdom into my life” years ago:
Self-professed “spiritual director” Jan Johnson herself tells us that she actually works with Richard Foster and Dallas Willard at Renovare teaching their CSM:
Since it’s not the thrust of this article, here I’ll just draw your attention to a few key points: 1) Shirer’s been familiar with Jan Johnson’s work for years, so 2) she would undoubtedly know Johnson’s teachings about Foster-Willardism, and 3) the Johnson post Shirer republishes is built around the mythology of Richard Rohr.
You need to know that Rohr is a universalist Roman Catholic mystic who works closely with Living Spiritual Teacher and Emerging Church guru Brian McLaren. McLaren is one third of the Emergent Church unholy trinity along with universalist EC pastor Doug Pagitt, and his friend Dr. Tony Jones, the progressive “theologian in residence” at Solomon’s Porch headed by Pagitt.
Now, I’m not saying that Priscilla Shirer endorses the mythology of the Emerging Church. That said, it’s beyond a reasonable doubt that Jan Johnson, whom Shirer does recommend, advances Foster-Willardism. And no less an authority than Brian McLaren told us long ago that Richard Foster and his spiritual twin Dallas Willard were “key mentors” of the EC.
It’s also an incontrovertible fact that Richard Rohr is directly involved in promulgating postmodern Progressive Christian theology—a Liberalism 2.0 that these EC rebels against the authority of God’s Word often refer to as “big tent” Emergence Christianity. The point being, this is a fruit of the CSM of Foster-Willardism.
Now it’s sinful ecumenicism comes another step closer to mainstream evangelical churches. As CSM spreads it’s bringing with it a syncretism drawing sectors of Christendom together that a few years ago not many would have ever believed. Who would have foreseen the mainstreaming of Word Faith mogul T.D. Jakes in Elephant Room 2?
Yet because of ER2 James MacDonald resigned from the Gospel Coalition in order to embrace Jakes as his Christian brother, which you see in There’s More To The Resignation of James MacDonald From Gospel Coalition. Now the parallel issues of women pastors and mainstream acceptance of Word Faith preachers moves even closer to you.
Consider that on Saturday night the aforementioned Priscilla Shirer tweeted:
Notice Shirer uses the pastoral reference “to sit under” pastrix Caine’s teaching. Then yesterday Shirer said:
I’ll have you know this is the same WF pastrix whom I mentioned earlier had preached for Steven Furtick. The two quite obviously hit it off as Shirer would also tweet the picture below:
Shirer was no doubt very impressed with the sermon from pastrix Caine:
You’ve probably heard the term bromance, well here we see that a femance was born as Caine would also tweet out the pic of her new friend Priscilla Shirer:
Caine would also tweet:
I’ll explain what Caine meant when she told Shirer “see you at Colour” in a moment. First however, obviously Trinity Church was impressed with their special guest pastrix:
Not all that surprising as Trinity Church is an Assemblies of God outfit that’s already off the rails being headed by pastor Jim Hennesy and his wife, pastrix Becky:
As I get set to close this out, for now, I’m going to show you yet more surprising syncretism coming about because of CSM and charismania. Let me remind you that in Beth Moore To Speak At Hillsong Church I originally drew attention to the upcoming Colour conference which pastrix Christine Caine referenced above.
Within that piece I told you about the below tweet from Bobbie Houston, whom I said above is senior pastrix of Hillsong Church along with her husband Brian. Remember, Caine is a pastrix there as well:
To which Beth Moore would respond:
I think we now have even more reason to be concerned about the discernment of Southern Baptist Bible teacher Beth Moore if she actually thinks that Bobbie Houston, a rebel against the Word of God, is a “faithful servant of Christ.” Is she really “humbled” to be speaking at heretical Hillsong Church?
The fact is, Hillsong regularly features the major prosperity preachers of the heretical Word Faith movement at their annual conferences such as Joyce Meyer, Joel Osteen, and his new friend T.D. Jakes. Yet Moore’s set, along with her own good friend Priscilla Shirer, as Key Speakers for Hillsong’s upcoming Colour Conference.
And you’ll see, Shirer’s already been there before:
The conference itself purports to be:
ONE LOVE, ONE HEART, ONE SISTERHOOD frames The Colour Conference, the Colour Sisterhood and a rising movement of women across the earth, who have a devotion, love and commitment to be the change in their local and global communities. (Online source)
While a noble goal, here we have two high profile Southern Baptist Convention endorsed Bible teachers partnering with Word Faith pastries who clearly are in rebellion against the authority of God’s Word. Such is the sorry state of the SBC. You should be able to see it has much bigger problems than worrying about a name change.
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