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Wednesday, March 13, 2013

UPDATE: ANSWER TO A CHRISTIAN WHO WENT TO A SEDER MEAL AND WAS "INFORMED ABOUT THE ELEMENTS"

Below are the texts of an e-mail chain, from and in response to, a Christian relative who went to a Seder meal at an Evangelical Free Church recently. 


Please note that we recognize that these are typical "Christian" responses these days in which much of the church world gets its information from the apostate "Christian" cable TV networks which promotes positive confession, wealth and prosperity gospels, god in us, self healing, and charismatic, pentecostal beliefs. It is a mindset of willing ignorance disguised as faith, and liberal, socialist, and ecumenical "must get along with everyone" compromises disguised as grace. We have decided not to answer this person any further. We have a certain focus to this blog and we do not intend to deviate from that, which is described in the blog header and the welcome post of December 10, 2012 when this blog started. We do not attempt to restrict our posts to "positives only", nor do we offer a feminized, cheery, fantastical, pop-psychological, pastel wonderland type of blog. In fact, having noticed so many "Christian" blogs out there with those characteristics, it made us even more convinced for the need of, and more determined to present, a hard hitting, no excuses, unapologetic, no compromises blog. See: http://ratherexposethem.blogspot.com/search/label/Welcome. We fully expect that a certain number of visitors will find our revelations offensive, but we make no apologies for the effects. Our goal is to provide a necessary service to the Christian world in providing information that is for the most part being purposely hidden from Christians because it is deemed inappropriate in a church setting and counterproductive to the financial and ministry goals of churches which are carefully controlled and manipulated within growth methodologies. Also, we have disabled comments right from the start because we do not have the time or energy to answer, refute, and/or argue with visitors. We do our own private evangelization as the Lord leads by divine appointment. "Approachable levels of interaction", "approachable discussions" and/or "focusing on the positives" are typically fostered privately with people of like mind who are biblically sound and not errant. We do not compromise our beliefs or adhere to the "in essentials unity" philosophy so prevalent in the churches, so that we can just "get along" with everyone. We faithfully expose, reprove, rebuke and contend for the faith (and the true gospel) once delivered to the saints as Christ commanded. The negatives of modern Christianity exist prior to our research and postings. We do not create them. We only expose them; not to do so would only add to and give more cover to the growing apostasy out there. This is a battle for the minds of men and women in the spiritual realm, and we expect the attacks to be constant, coming from the world, Satan and the apostate churches. We will continue to be "hard core researchers" with the help of God and for as long as He desires and permits. To be otherwise would be treasonous and complicit with apostasy. 
    

    First the email (in part) from the relative after seeing our blog post titled:
                        "Hebraic Craze Going Viral": 
"Great article! You can rest at ease as our church did this as a way to learn about the Jewish traditions and the elements....nothing viral or crazed. No yearly ceremony or replacing the Communion. Simply informational."
    This is our response:

We have to date 17 posts filed under the Hebraic/Messianic category on our blog. Besides that we are following 45 websites that have Messianic outreaches to Christian churches which are seeking to convince Christians that they are Jewish like Jesus once they are saved and likewise brought under the Jewish covenant. Not so! Theologically, they are seeking (among other types of heretics) to blur the lines between Christians and Jews leading to the apostate one world church headed by the antichrist. Even if your church has not gone crazed or viral with this, there are many others who have, and see nothing wrong with this, as our research proves. Yes, it may only be done once a year, but many churches have been doing it for years, with more all the time. So it is viral because it is spreading throughout the church world, now more than ever.
    We are sorry to disagree but you are wrong when you say this is just informational. You are being deceived. It is just one more initiation and introduction into ecumenical thinking, and its purpose is to draw Christians further yet away from thinking biblically and doctrinally and towards powerless ritual similar to the Catholic church.  See: 2Tim3:5. Your reference to the term "elements" of the Seder is also a very Catholic term, used to describe the transubstantiated bread and wine which a priest allegedly turns mystically into the body and blood of Christ. By freely using this term indicates you have been instructed to think in terms of the sacredness of religious objects which is non-Christian. 
    The New Testament is a New Covenant not of laws, ordinances, rituals, holy days, dietary laws, and/or observances of religious custom, because they only give the appearance and suggestion of holiness on the outside, but fail to affect the heart and soul of mankind, like a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. We have been freed from all that stuff. There is no need to be informed, educated, indoctrinated or even persuaded that you as a Christian are missing something that you should have known about all along. There is nothing that can or should be added to, removed, or changed about Scripture. To suggest otherwise is pure gnosticism, which purports to reveal secrets, mysteries, and knowledge heretofore undiscovered. A good current example of this heresy is Jonathan Cahn's "The Harbinger" book which is a top seller, but filled with heresies and distortions of Scripture. He is a Messianic Jew from a congregation in Wayne, NJ.
    For your information, Messianic Jews claim to have "accepted Jesus", but will not address Him as Jesus, but as Yeshua. They also, generally speaking, do not accept Him as divine, but only as the Messiah man. They believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit just like Pentecostals. Messianic congregations give up nothing Jewish, and "accept Jesus" in name only, not as Savior. It is the Christian who associates with Messianics who gives up much. 
    Please reconsider what you have taken part in.

March 13, 2013 retort to our email above: (selected applicable parts). 
    
    "But what I cannot do is sort through the vast amount of info you present. It's beyond comprehension. I feel as if you enjoy researching the life out of something and leaving people in the dust rather than engaging in a mutual and approachable level of interaction. 
    It is not my occupation to know all these many other false teachings except to know they exist and I am to not partake of them.
    You have such a high level of defense on this and other matters of the church. Good motive but overboard a bit. Can you step down for a few minutes and answer some simple questions for me? Research has its place, but God wants us to SHOW and DO so others are DRAWN TO Christ, not away from Him. I can appreciate your deep research to a point, then you lose me. Is there anything that you agree with ? Can you simply share the love of Christ and come to an approachable discussion?
    I get bogged down with the deep, detailed alarm you spread. 
    I would love to see in you a gentle, loving and simple side, leaving the hard core researcher out. What a transformation that would be. I want to see and know you as Christ-like in demeanor and focusing on the positives of the Christian walk. Where is your Jesus? There is a place and time for sounding the alarms, but all the time? Yikes! I would love to have a simple discussion about your answered prayer, how the Lord has touched you this week, or what did He teach you about? We are called to encourage each other and uplift each other in our walk."