GOD OUR MOTHER
God Our Mother includes an apophatic contemplative meditation. Apophatic disciplines seek to push beyond language and rational thinking in the context of God's Holiness, and can be very powerful. For this reason, we recommend that spiritual practices like apophaticism are best moderated through scripture, tradition, and some form of spiritual community.
Words and lyrics from God Our Mother are available here.
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From Way of Life:
CCM MUSICIANS CALL GOD “OUR MOTHER” (Friday Church News Notes, August 8, 2014, www.wayoflife.org, email@example.com, 866-295-4143) - CCM musicians Michael Gungor and Nichole Nordeman are members of The Liturgists, “a collective of creators working together to make thoughtful liturgical work.” Both names were listed on The Liturgists web site under “Who” when I did this research on June 7, 2014. One of The Liturgies is “God Our Mother,” which includes the following words: “To know only the Father God would be like seeing the bright, dazzling sun, but never the stars spreading across the sky like so much fairy dust. God our Mother, reaching out to us with those hands--mother hands, strong and coursing with love, binding up wounds and soothing scrapes, holding us together, holding us safe. God our Mother, feeding us, nourishing us, giving us what we need to grow and thrive, taking care of us in big and small ways, seeing us, knitting us back together with love and grace when we’ve been broken. God our Mother, believing in us” (See Website). The goal of The Liturgies is to create an “apophatic meditation” that enables the practitioner to “experience a connection with God.” The lyrics are accompanied by New Age-style music that is potentially trance inducing. The Liturgies are associated with contemplative prayer practices that come from Roman Catholic monasticism. The objective is to find God “beyond human language.” This is blind mysticism and is a recipe for spiritual disaster. The “god” that is encountered beyond the language of Scripture is an idol.
TWO WELL KNOWN PARTICIPANTS IN THE LITURGISTS ARE:
ROB BELL (SEE OUR PREVIOUS POSTS):
ROB BELL SAYS CHRISTIAN BELIEFS ABOUT HELL ARE "MISGUIDED AND TOXIC"
ROB BELL THINKS THE CULTURE VIEWS GOD LIKE AN OUTDATED "OLDSMOBILE"
LIKENED TO "THE OLD WAY OF PRESENTING GOD" TO A MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED AND EDUCATED CULTURE
ROB BELL COMES OUT FOR GAY MARRIAGE EQUALITY
ROB BELL'S HERETICAL NEW POSITION ON HOMOSEXUALITY & THE CHURCH, CHALLENGED AND EXPOSED
"NO THIRD WAY QUEERSTIANITY" SOARS AT YOUR "LOVING" EMERGING CHURCH~NO DOCTRINES, JUST "CONVERSATIONS"
Michael Gungor: (From Way of Life www.wayoflife.org)
Michael Gungor (b. 1980) is the founder of the Gungor
contemporary worship band. His first album was published
in 2002 by Integrity Music. His song “Beautiful Tings” was
nominated for Best Gospel Song at the Grammy awards in
2011. He contributed to the songs “Friend of God” and “Say
So” with Israel Houghton.
He is the founder of Bloom Church in Denver, which is a
fellowship of house churches that meet together for joint
worship on Sunday nights. Their objective is to build the
kingdom of God on earth toward “the healing of the world.”
Their statement of faith is very brief for the sake of
Gungor is a big proponent of contemplative spirituality,
and as with many others, it has led him to a pantheistic
concept of God, which is clear evidence that the practitioners
are communing with demons masquerading as angels of
[Pantheism is the doctrine that God is everything, whereas
panentheism is the doctrine that God is in all things.
“With panentheism you still have a personal God (theism)
coupled with God’s pervasive presence in all creation
(pantheism). ... At the mystical level, they experience this
God-force that seems to fow through everything and
everybody. All creation has God in it as a living, vital
presence” (Ray Yungen, A Time of Departing, pp. 29, 30).]
This is exactly what happened to Michael Gungor on a
contemplative retreat in Italy in 2010. First, visiting Rome
and hearing the pope speak, he showed his spiritual blindness
by saying that this “was not a bad way to start a spiritual
journey” and that it made him “want to be a
Catholic” (“Pilgrimage: Meditation,” gungormusic.com, cited
from “Tens of Thousands Introduced to Contemplative
Advocates,” Lighthouse Trails, Aug. 28, 2012).
Gungor then spent time at an interfaith retreat center in
Assisi which had statues of Mary, Buddha, and Hindu idols.
In that pagan atmosphere during “non-judgmental”
contemplative meditation he learned that “God is something
to be experienced, not to believe in” and that “God is the
basic Reality of the universe,” that “whatever is, that is God.”
He said that he felt so close to God through meditation “that
‘You’ almost seems funny.” In other words, he came to believe
that God is not something “out there” but the essence of
everything. He said, “I was going to say some sort of
defensive, fearful statement clarifying that I’m not talking
about pantheism. But I don’t need to be afraid [because God
is] “light and essence and love of the purest kind.” This is a
foolish statement in light of the Bible’s many warnings about
the danger of false gods and false christs and false spirits.
Gungor came to this understanding through “just being
with God,” through “not judging yourself or your thoughts,”
through imagining that “you are breathing the very presence
of God in and out of your lungs,” through imagining that
“you are inhaling light into any darkness inside, and then
breathing out ever more light into the world.” He says, “there
are no rules ... you can try anything.” What a perfect recipe
for spiritual disaster!
Nowhere does the Bible say that God is all things or that
God is in all things. He created all things; He is aware of all
things; He is in ultimate control of all things; He cares and
provides for all things; all things consist by him (Col. 1:17);
there is nowhere we can fee from His Spirit (Psalm 139:7). But
He is not IN all things after the fashion indicated in the
previous statements. The believer sees the glory of God in the
creation (Rom. 1:20), but God does not flow into us from the
creation nor is God in the creation itself. That is heresy and
the essence of idolatry.
When God appeared to Elijah He brought a great wind and
an earthquake and a fire, but the Bible plainly says that the
Lord was not in these things (1 Kings 19:11-12).